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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#53626: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:15:17 AM

Krillin is a pro at dying anyway.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53627: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:18:04 AM

That's not really something you want to be a pro at.

And just because there are no consequences doesn't mean they all like DYING HORRIBLY.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#53628: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:18:24 AM

He prefers the term "veteran."

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53629: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:21:31 AM

Chiaoutzu has died just as many times. He's just as much a vet, even if he's not acknowledged as such.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#53630: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:24:28 AM

I do love this scene.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#53631: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:33:33 AM

What's the worse that Zeno could do, you'll probably die instantly anyway.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#53632: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:34:05 AM

Randomness is sure that no one will feel anything from the erasure of their Universe...

So, unless Zen-Oh decides to blow them up...problem averted.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53633: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:13:58 AM

Universe erasure presumably wipes out the afterlife, resulting in Deader than Dead on a cosmic scale, and which would finally give consequences back to death.

I've been wondering if being erased by Beerus (even if you're not already dead, like the ghost he killed) has the same affect, but on an individual scale.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#53634: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:24:53 AM

You know, I've been wondering, could any use of the dragonballs bring back someone from erasure?

I mean, it's easy to wish someone back to life because their soul is in the otherworld, but erasure destroys both body AND soul. I mean like, do even the super dragonballs have the power to bring back entire universes from nothingness?

Also, what's to stop a certain situation from happening like one of the Zeno's being jealous of Krillin's friendship with Goku and hakaing him on the spot?

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53635: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:39:13 AM

I've been thinking the Super Dragonballs might, and that that's how the arc is going to end - with the winner using the balls to wish everyone back or save them some other way.

The battle royale format works that, as it means the tournament could even end before anybody gets erased.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#53636: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:52:57 AM

I like how Whis tells Goku that Zeno will erase him if he asks him to remove the stipulation about erasing universes.

Then Bergamo does it and Zeno is just like "That's fine."

Thanks, Whis.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53637: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:54:57 AM

[up][up]Not really. I'd assume that if somehow, no one gets eliminated, Zen-O would just erase them all.

I don't think anyone can Rules Lawyer their way out of this. Or at least, there's no evidence that they can.

There's no evidence they can't either (as in, we don't know if he's not willing to let the worlds be revived, or change his mind if all of them proved to be pretty awesome despite being weak), but right now, we have to assume it's not on the table.

[up] Oh. That's a good point. Whis screwed up on that one...or did Toei add Bergamo asking for that? We'll have to see how the Toyotaro version goes I guess.

edited 5th Mar '17 10:00:16 AM by HandsomeRob

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#53639: Mar 5th 2017 at 10:50:51 AM

[up][up][up]

Good point, though Bergamo did it under a specific stipulation, which I guess mattered to Zeno. Maybe if Goku asked unabashedly with nothing in return, Zeno might've gotten mad.

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#53640: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:04:42 AM

[up][up][up]The only way I see a Rules Lawyer situation happening is in the case of a tie (two or three universe still having an equal number of fighters in the ring) and/or right after the tournament, and in the case of the latter that is only if the Zen'Os enjoyed the tourney enough.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53641: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:11:32 AM

So basically, the best way for it to end is for no one to actually get eliminated in the full 48 minutes, and Zen-O to be all like You guys are actually pretty cool! I'mma keep you!

But that's extremely unlikely. I think if anyone else was left, they'd probably just force them to fight in a very literal Sudden Death round.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#53642: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:42:18 AM

Just give Zeno's Nintendo Switch or something. That should distract them long enough that they forget about wanting to erase the universes.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53643: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:58:49 AM

Make sure it's not a day 1 Switch.

Been a few issues that will need to be patched out.

Though no system has avoided issues on Launch day, so it's not too big a problem, just that Zen-O might nuke someone...or everyone in the face if he has a problem with things.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#53644: Mar 5th 2017 at 12:00:43 PM

So basically, the best way for it to end is for no one to actually get eliminated in the full 48 minutes, and Zen-O to be all like You guys are actually pretty cool! I'mma keep you!

During Goku's match in this most recent match, they said they would erase every universe if it looks like Goku was holding back, so I don't think that will be an option.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53645: Mar 5th 2017 at 12:03:04 PM

Didn't say they should hold back.

Just that if they all fought with everything they had, but nobody got taken out in the time limit, Zen-O might be impressed enough to spare them.

But the chance of that happening in anyway are pretty unlikely.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53646: Mar 5th 2017 at 12:52:41 PM

If you get Zenou a switch, be sure to also get him Zelda... and another console because Breath of the Wild is pretty much the only thing worth buying on the Switch by most accounts.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#53647: Mar 5th 2017 at 12:54:26 PM

So just got this odd thought after reading the expendable alternate universe page that got me thinking:

There is a 2nd future timeline, the one Cell came from where he killed Trunks & took his time machine. I never thought about this because they completely ignored it which makes sense as there's nothing left in that world to care about but wouldn't that timeline have a Goku Black & Future Zamasu?

Like would it be possible or am I thinking too deeply into this?

I'm only get Breath for the Wii U anyway. Not shilling out for a Switch till some time later.

edited 5th Mar '17 12:55:14 PM by slimcoder

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#53648: Mar 5th 2017 at 1:01:31 PM

I don't know, i don't think Goku and Toppo will be able to finish their fight.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53649: Mar 5th 2017 at 1:03:34 PM

Not really. I'd assume that if somehow, no one gets eliminated, Zen-O would just erase them all.

I don't think anyone can Rules Lawyer their way out of this. Or at least, there's no evidence that they can.

That's not what I said.

If the tournament is a free for all, rather than an elimination bracket, that means that instead of being erased as they're eliminated in turn as they're defeated, each team is being eliminated gradually at the same time. This means that Zeno will likely erase people after the tournament is over, rather than on the go, because it's more dramatic that way.

Which means it's possible that the winner could get their wish before the erasure happens, and say something like "I wish all of our universe's were fused into one."

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#53650: Mar 5th 2017 at 1:45:09 PM

Or maybe Zenou will totally forget about blowing up the universes.

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