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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53201: Feb 27th 2017 at 8:38:33 AM

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He did give the Pilaf Gang ice cream though.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#53202: Feb 27th 2017 at 9:06:34 AM

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Understatement.....

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#53203: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:32:20 AM

So uh...anyone else think with the introduction to so many new characters; can we just put the Gods, Kais, and Angels all on one page?

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#53204: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:33:52 AM

It makes more sense to separate by Universe for now. If anything is a problem it's the lazy troping of the new Destruction Gods and Angels.

edited 27th Feb '17 10:35:48 AM by VeryMelon

MasaruGoku12 Since: Feb, 2016
#53205: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:51:31 AM

Random Post Bizarre crossover time!!

Code Geass x dragon ball. No actual reason.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53206: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:58:09 AM

Would you guys say Hercule is partly to blame for Universe 7's low average in regards to Earth?

Considering he spent years saying Ki attacks were just tricks.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#53207: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:14:35 AM

I doubt ONE planet would have that much of a difference on the average of an entire universe.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53208: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:19:29 AM

Dunno, it very well could if that planet's full of super badasses.

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#53209: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:20:43 AM

Really, I blame Frieza and maybe Cold killing off the populations of so many planets. Universes in Dragon Ball don't seem all that large, so 76+ planets is probably enough to bring the average way down.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53210: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:23:35 AM

I wonder how the DC or Marvel universes would do cause those universe have planets filled with badasses.

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#53211: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:27:49 AM

[up]I'm guessing such races as the Skrulls and the Daxamites probably bring the averages down a bit, but I think overall DC and Marvel would score pretty high.....wait, actually, Marvel would be a bit lower, considering there's a higher frequency of planet ending cosmic horrors there than DC.

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#53212: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:57:39 AM

[up] On the other hand, the DC universe gets rebooted every other week and who knows how that would affect things.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53213: Feb 27th 2017 at 12:15:03 PM

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The Skrulls have several badass members though and on average, they are stronger than non powered humans.

As for planet eaters, Galactus is "the life bringer" now.

edited 27th Feb '17 12:16:07 PM by Cortez

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#53215: Feb 27th 2017 at 1:10:46 PM

I think it's a little early to say exactly what are Zen-Oh's standards for ranking mortals, but I seriously doubt morality has any factor in the judgement process. Rather, since the judging came about as a result of watching a martial arts tournament, Zen-Oh's ranking being purely based on Power Level seems likely.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#53216: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:16:37 PM

I broke it down earlier that, due to Freeza culling or controlling world's with potential, Earth was the only place truly capable of bringing up the average (that we know of) and, due to Hercule and the protagonists' complacency, Earth is likely weaker on average than it could have been.

Or in short, literally everyone in the universe besides the protagonists are driving the average down, and the protagonists haven't before now had any interest in changing that.

It's less anyone's fault specifically and more that nobody in the universe was interested in helping it become stronger.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#53217: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:20:15 PM

To be fair... nobody had any reason to assume it needed to be stronger in order to validate it's existence.

Lest they be deleted by an all-powerful child.

edited 27th Feb '17 2:25:49 PM by Soble

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53218: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:21:10 PM

... No, that's definitely Beerus' and the Supreme Kai's fault.

Both of them could've killed Freeza any time they wanted, and they knew he was the most evil motherfucker in the universe or, at the absolutely lowest, the second most evil motherfucker in the universe, behind Babidi.

So if the quality of all life became lower as a result of his actions, both of them should be held responsible.

edited 27th Feb '17 2:21:48 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#53219: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:21:44 PM

Heh, well now they all do.

Shin & Beerus better get to work after this.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53220: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:21:55 PM

Sounds right to me.

Don't forget when Buu decided to go fucking up everything that could be fucked up.

I doubt he only killed the gods during his little rampage. So between Buu shitstomped the entire universe's face, Freeza putting his foot on said face so that it didn't rise up to knock him off the mountain, Satan telling everyone on Earth that Ki doesn't exist, meaning people just rely on him anyway, the Z Warriors making no attempt to dissuade this or train anyone else (bunch of hermits that they are), and Goku pretty much killing everyone else's desire to train because he makes all of them useless, so they just rely on him the way the rest of the world relies on Satan, it's not a shock that the development of Universe 6 7 is massively stunted.

Both of them could've killed Freeza any time they wanted, and they knew he was the most evil motherfucker in the universe or, at the absolutely lowest, the second most evil motherfucker in the universe, behind Babidi.

Well Beerus is a lazy dick, but depending on how much the extra kai's have been retconned, I'd gather that Shin's lack of action came either due to having to patrol the entire universe on his own (when it was once a job for four Kaioshins and one Dai-Kaioushin), or due to the whole don't interfere with Mortals thing that seems to be a rule with the Kais of other universes.

I'm suspecting it's a combination of both.

edited 27th Feb '17 2:24:28 PM by HandsomeRob

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53221: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:28:10 PM

Given the fact that there's literally nobody who would enforce a 'don't interfere with mortals' rule, I doubt that's what prevented the Supreme Kai from ruining Freeza's shit.

He didn't simply because, to him, it was small potatoes. Freeza was unbelievably strong... but even at his absolute best, the Supreme Kai would kill him with one punch, so to him, it wasn't that big a deal because he could've stopped Freeza at any time.

Not knowing the fact that having weak mortals could get the Omni King to destroy your entire universe likely would've resulted in a wholly different form of administration, I assume.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#53222: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:46:24 PM

See, I can't fully believe that.

As Gods go, Shin is pretty helpful (despite how much he fails at it, at least he tries).

I mean, Buu was an infinitely greater threat than Freeza true, but I don't want to think he did nothing because oh, he's just small potatoes.

At worst, I'm willing to believe he was fully focused on watching Babidi's movements to prevent Buu from every awakening and put Freeza on the back burner because at least Freeza wouldn't destroy the universe for shits and giggles.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#53223: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:01:19 PM

Killing Freeza would've taken however many syllables it takes for him to say "Kibito, take me to Freeza" and approximately fourteen more seconds, depending on how much he wants to reveal to Freeza before killing him, and if he plans to go after King Cold too.

He clearly couldn't do much about Babidi anyway.

edited 27th Feb '17 3:01:49 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#53224: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:02:48 PM

Well, it's not his fault Toriyama didn't think that far ahead. Shin and Kibito didn't even exist when Freeza was a thing.

I'm still giving him the benefit of the doubt on this, so we're just gonna have to agree to disagree.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#53225: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:06:51 PM

Heh funny thing. I have a friend in one of my classes who is a huge DBZ. She saw the entire show, a couple of the movies & even GT.

Thing is though she told me she has no intention of watching Super or is at least very apprehensive. One of her reasons being she doesn't like how Beerus is introduced as the most powerful character in the cast despite having never been mentioned before. She's aware of the remember the new guy trope but she still doesn't like how he is suddenly created to be top dog.

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