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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#52476: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:42:20 PM

Why would Satan be her family name any more than Briefs is Bulma's?

Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#52478: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:43:49 PM

His real name is Mark.

Satan is just a stage name.

edited 19th Feb '17 7:44:32 PM by LordVatek

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#52479: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:44:36 PM

Mr. Satan and Hercule are his stage names that stuck around. I don't think Videl would take them on. She'd go with her own thing.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#52480: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:46:21 PM

Satan might as well be his real name now...it's like the 18 thing, nobody else knows, so it doesn't matter.

edited 19th Feb '17 7:46:58 PM by randomness4

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Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
#52481: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:47:40 PM

Well, I figured I'd ask because of two reasons.

1. Pan is officially referred to as Son Pan. 2. Chi Chi is a princess, yet she took the Son surname despite that.

Either way, making the change for now, some of you doods decide whether or not it should stay.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#52482: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:47:46 PM

Huh. So Satan was a stage name. Neat.

TFS even gets a pass since they used "Mark Satan" on television.

Still prefer "Hercule Satan." But I'm not going to fight anyone in Smash over changing the TV Tropes page. Just, include something to distinguish the "Mark/Hercule/Satan" name and moniker so that it doesn't turn into an edit war later. That's not exactly common information that every fan would know so I guarantee it's going to start some disagreement later. Explaining now saves explanation later.

edited 19th Feb '17 7:48:44 PM by Soble

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Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#52483: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:50:25 PM

I think the current translation of the manga has a part where they mention Hercule was his old stage name, but he later switched to Mr. Satan. Nice little reference to behind the scenes stuff.

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#52484: Feb 19th 2017 at 7:56:44 PM

Pan is officially referred to as Son Pan.

...When?

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Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
#52485: Feb 19th 2017 at 8:17:54 PM

[up] Sorry, typo, it was actually a "if I remember correctly" kinda thing.

Also, how'd you do that quote?, I thought you couldn't do that in the tvtropes forum.

edited 19th Feb '17 8:18:03 PM by Kytseo

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#52486: Feb 19th 2017 at 8:21:24 PM

[[quoteblock]]Insert text here.[[/quoteblock]]

Anyways, neither Pan nor Chi-Chi have ever used the surname from what I've seen so there's no reason to assume that Videl does.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52487: Feb 19th 2017 at 8:22:14 PM

Further help.

edited 19th Feb '17 8:23:21 PM by Zelenal

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#52488: Feb 19th 2017 at 8:39:25 PM

I mean, Chichi's never used it but both her kids have it. That's not confirmation that Pan is "Son Pan" but it seems weirder to me to assume she isn't. I agree her page shouldn't call her that until it's explicitly mentioned though.

Kytseo Since: Jul, 2010
#52489: Feb 19th 2017 at 8:43:08 PM

Well, despite Chi Chi not really being called such, she's still been referred to as Son Chi Chi here for a while now.

That, on top of her kids being Son Gohan and Son Goten, can bring about the logical conclusion.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#52490: Feb 19th 2017 at 9:33:25 PM

Mr. Satan wouldn't be the first martial artist with a stage name to just change his name one his popularity rose.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#52491: Feb 20th 2017 at 12:18:01 AM

Dragon Ball uses surnames differently to the real world/most other works and I think the character pages should reflect that.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52492: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:03:57 AM

If by "differently" you mean "only Goku and his family seem have them" then sure.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#52493: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:15:42 AM

By differently I mean that they explicitly acknowledge how they're an old time tradition that has fallen out of use, but sure.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52494: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:18:37 AM

So I've been watching some videos and stumbled upon the final fate of Frieza at the end of Resurrection of F & so does anyone feel sorry for the tyrannical bastard?

Like he deserved it no doubt, but still what an awful Hell, the dude was actually crying at the end. Oblivion is a better fate than the candy-land Hell. I mean Jesus is he pitiable now even if he totally deserves it after wasting all the chances he could have taken to avoid his death.

Makes me wonder how Cell's doing in his Hell.

edited 20th Feb '17 1:19:06 AM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52495: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:32:50 AM

Cell...? He was bio-machine bug man...he's not in "heck", he just doesn't exist anymore. Like Android #16...

What's there to feel bad about for Freezerator, it was good death.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#52496: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:35:20 AM

I do not feel bad for Space Napolhitler who had no redeeming qualities whatsoever, no.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#52497: Feb 20th 2017 at 1:49:46 AM

I feel worse for me for having to sit through that movie

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#52498: Feb 20th 2017 at 2:08:42 AM

Ya know, it still amazes me to no end how Toyble went from doing that old DBAF doujinshi to actually helping out Toriyama with continuing Dragon Ball.

Like holy shit...

edited 20th Feb '17 2:09:12 AM by Rinsankajugin

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52499: Feb 20th 2017 at 2:33:42 AM

I don't know it's just something pathetic about his fate. He deserves it but its just so sad you can't help but feel "Damn that's sad" even a little. Especially with the fact he's actually crying. There is something very pitiable of someone who is driven to outright sobbing.

Also I thought Cell had a soul, I mean he can use Ki & that relies on spirit or your inner power right?

edited 20th Feb '17 2:43:06 AM by slimcoder

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Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#52500: Feb 20th 2017 at 4:41:45 AM

Would Dr. Gero be in Hell or just not exist?

The legend has returned.

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