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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#51301: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:11:40 PM

Clearly Goku shouldn't have ever learned instant transmission technique, it allows him too much freedom to do whatever he wants [lol]

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#51302: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:12:49 PM

Whenever people go Goku VS Superman, they always go for "who's the most powerful," but in recent light of events, who's the most reckless?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51303: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:15:46 PM

Well Superman is not a blood knight so Goku.

Also Superman has a son now so both characters parenting styles can be compared.

edited 6th Feb '17 12:15:59 PM by slimcoder

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#51304: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:31:17 PM

Superman is far, far worse than Goku could ever hope to be.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51305: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:35:25 PM

They must have really had fun making those.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#51306: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:51:19 PM

Technically, those were the comic book equivalent of clickbait titles on Youtube videos.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51307: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:59:21 PM

That's what I meant. They're all clearly situations taken completely out of context and they loved fooling around to draw you in to see what's really going on.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#51308: Feb 6th 2017 at 1:02:49 PM

Granted, I'm not sure if Luthor stealing 40 cakes counted as that as well

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#51309: Feb 6th 2017 at 1:05:30 PM

Nah, that was the Super Dictionary. Which illustrated each word with a bizarre scenario and a bunch of redundant sentences using the word in context.

The latter of which, fun fact, was the inspiration for Mojo Jojo's odd speech patterns.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#51310: Feb 6th 2017 at 1:28:59 PM

The thing with Super Dickery is that most instances of actual, real Superdickery come from old comics, and that version of Superman is long since gone.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#51311: Feb 6th 2017 at 1:30:41 PM

I mean, Goku got super pissed about Goku Black killing an alternate timeline Chichi and Goten, does that mean he definitely values their lives above training? I'm actually not sure.

I don't think Goku really thinks like that, with "values x above y" and so on. I think he legitimately cares about a lot of different things and doesn't see any disconnect in denying one in order to satisfy another, which is different from the way most everyone else thinks - but that perspective is alien to him. To him, he can sacrifice time with his family for training and not expect any loss in relationship with the latter - and his family and friends are so used to his personality, that they accept this and don't have hard feelings about it (even Chi-Chi doesn't really stew over it).

You can see it with the way he deals with crises. Goku always approaches situations with "I'll deal with it, and if I can't deal with it now I can find a way to deal with it later, so no need to worry" - so he's blase about problems and threats and just focuses on good fights and having fun. He's assured that if things go badly, he can handle it. And he only ever really stops thinking like that when he loses someone he cares about, but even then he's still capable of dealing with it eventually.

This is one of the few times the universe isn't proving that worldview to ultimately be correct (the last time being with Cell and Gohan - and even he was still more or less correct).

edited 6th Feb '17 1:31:11 PM by KnownUnknown

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#51312: Feb 6th 2017 at 1:40:53 PM

I think another two times would be when Vegeta allowed himself to be controlled by Babidi and blasted an entire portion of the Martial Arts Tournament stadium and threatened to kill more civilians if he did not fight Vegeta then and there; and basically dealing with Buu after he became Super Buu.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#51313: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:06:36 PM

The thing about Goku's parenting style is that he legitimately doesn't think children need a lot of supervision or sheltering, because he himself grew up without those, and never considered that something bad. If it wasn't for Chi Chi, he would have no problem with letting his kids leave home and do whatever for years at a time, not because he doesn't love them, but because he doesn't consider that a bad thing.

Eagal Since: Apr, 2012
#51314: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:45:23 PM

In short, the guy that's an alien has a mindset that is not human and a different system of value than humans do. tongue

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#51315: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:47:59 PM

Maybe, but if I would pin it as something more unique to Goku than being because he's a Saiyan. Especially as we see Vegeta growing more of a sense of responsibility.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51316: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:51:58 PM

Yeah, I don't think Goku's outlook can just be brushed aside by the fact that he's a Saiyan.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#51317: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:53:13 PM

Well, it's Vegeta who seems the odd one among his race, given the practice on sending babies into space on military missions.

Maybe Vegeta is just over correcting for being such an unbearable asshole earlier in life.

UdtheImp from Stamford, CT (Series 2) Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#51318: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:55:00 PM

[up][up]I blame the fact that he was raised by a combination of head injury, being raised by an old hermit in the middle of nowhere, having to fend for himself for who knows how long until the age of twelve, and then Saiyan DNA. I listed his species as last because being a Saiyan is probably the least viable reason for Goku's outlook on life.

[up]Might be. Before the first time he died, Piccolo flat out told Vegeta "dude, you are soooooo goin' to Hell," and Enma actually told Vegeta later on that the ONLY reason he's letting him out of Hell without Dragon Balls is because the situation with Buu is that dire, as otherwise the only way out would've been with the Dragon Balls.

edited 6th Feb '17 3:00:10 PM by UdtheImp

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51319: Feb 6th 2017 at 3:05:32 PM

How was he raised by King Vegeta?

The dude didn't send his son off to conquer planets when he was an infant right?

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#51320: Feb 6th 2017 at 3:07:24 PM

[up]Dragon Ball Minus shows Vegeta on an alien world when Planet Vegeta got destroyed, so I assume that's exactly what the king did.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#51321: Feb 6th 2017 at 3:50:23 PM

Goku's outlook in life does have very much to do with being a Saiyan and thinking like a Saiyan. His nature is very important in terms of his personality.

However, the reason why he developed in the way he did stems from nurture and experience, not just said nature. Goku could have grown with a sense of responsibility and less skewed morals had he been raised by a more well adjusted human being, but he grew up as an hermit in the middle of nowhere and throughout the entirety of his life, he has never come across a problem that could not be punched to death.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#51322: Feb 6th 2017 at 5:08:20 PM

I wonder if Beerus is going to take away the Zen'o Button in the next episode. Or maybe Goku will give it back at the end of this arc after learning the Spider-Man lesson.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#51323: Feb 6th 2017 at 5:33:51 PM

Randomness wouldn't think that Karrot would actually need that kind of lesson...

But besides power levels...he's never truly had such "great power" in that way...

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#51324: Feb 6th 2017 at 6:49:19 PM

@Black Yakuza:

You realize that the "Green Dad" thing existed long before the Abridge series, right?

That's what they're referencing, they did come up with the concept.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51325: Feb 6th 2017 at 6:53:10 PM

They didn't start it but they're definitely reinforcing and legitimizing it.


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