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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#51226: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:25:05 PM

Expect a few curb-stomps for the lame designs...

Cell clone.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51227: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:26:12 PM

I think we tend to view words like that having more power than they really do. Being a grandparent, or parent, or sibling, doesn't mean jack if the person doesn't want it to.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#51228: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:29:49 PM

[up] We tend to look down on those kinds of people though. Societal views & expectations of you should be depending on how old you are & position in your family.

Also about that shonen adult protag thing..... how many shonen heroes have we followed to adult-hood? Cause the only one I can think of at the moment is Naruto.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:30:10 PM by slimcoder

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#51229: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:37:07 PM

Gintoki started his series at 30, and Kenshin was already 28 at the start of his.

Toriko was also 25 in his.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:37:31 PM by BlackYakuzu94

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#51230: Feb 5th 2017 at 9:40:44 PM

It may not count, but Joseph Joestar also became a grandfather, thought admittedly, not the main protagonist anymore.

edited 5th Feb '17 9:41:23 PM by Tomodachi

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#51231: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:32:45 PM

Likewise, Jotaro was 28 during Part 4 and was 40 during Part 6. Part 6 also deconstructs some of the tropes surrounding his character type.

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Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#51232: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:37:25 PM

None of those are examples of following a character to adulthood.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#51233: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:37:32 PM

Chances are not all of them are battle mongers & some are in it for other reasons such as altruism or even money. Also the fact no one likes to be forced to do anything cause the tourney is obviously not voluntary.

Manga!Frost is going to be pissed Goku dragged him into ANOTHER tournament.

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#51234: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:51:38 PM

Wonder what is Anime! Frost motivation for entering the tournament, besides, you know, survival.

Maybe he wants to recover his empire?

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#51235: Feb 5th 2017 at 10:55:53 PM

Champa lets him live. He knows it would displease Zen-o otherwise if he killed one of the fighters that entertained him.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#51236: Feb 5th 2017 at 11:03:43 PM

So... Goku got a bunch of other universes besides his own tied up in this tournament for survival? Potential untold trillions will die? Doesn't that kind of make him the worst?

My pedestal is kind of broken. Unless they're going to wish these other universes back, removing the consequences of this whole arc.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#51237: Feb 5th 2017 at 11:08:40 PM

Ya know, I'm almost certain that's what they're gonna do. It wouldn't be out of place.

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BearyScary Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: You spin me right round, baby
#51238: Feb 5th 2017 at 11:10:44 PM

Consequences? What are those? Is It Something You Eat?

But you know, I wouldn't lose any sleep over the loss of that universe with the clown god, or whatever that thing is. tongue

They're already suffering enough, clearly. -.-

edited 5th Feb '17 11:14:31 PM by BearyScary

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#51239: Feb 5th 2017 at 11:38:24 PM

Wait do the Super Dragonballs have the power? If so then they should have revived Future Trunks timeline. I don't think the D-balls can pull their asses out of the fire this time. If so then why dread universal destruction in the first place?

Huh I think Jojo is one of the few series that have the protags growing up & having a kid where their relationships with them are important to the story. Part 6 deals with how Jotaro was a shitty dad to Jolyne & Part 4 too kinda cause Josuke is Joseph's bastard son.

edited 5th Feb '17 11:39:20 PM by slimcoder

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#51240: Feb 5th 2017 at 11:45:09 PM

The Super Balls are spread across the multiple universes...they'd have to find them before the tournament, to not risk them being destroyed.

But the viewers don't want that to happen...

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#51241: Feb 6th 2017 at 12:41:11 AM

You gotta give props to Zamasu: He is fucking patient. I mean, even with the time ring and asking Zuno, he would had a looong while to found the Super Dragon Balls. Twice.

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#51242: Feb 6th 2017 at 2:19:01 AM

He is a being who by nature lives millions of years. Patience on a level that would baffle us is to be expected.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#51243: Feb 6th 2017 at 3:14:36 AM

I think I got why Goku wasn't quite like that at the beggining of Z: he was the strongest. He beat Piccolo and was the strongest in the planet, so he was fulfilled to a degree.

After Beerus made his entrance, he no longer was the strongest, so he is in full blood knight mode.

And yeah, here is hoping Zen-ô has some character development and doesn't go full destruction. Gotta see the Grand Priest do something, as well.

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#51244: Feb 6th 2017 at 3:21:58 AM

wild mass guess Captain Ayymao will save the multiverse from Goku wild mass guess

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#51245: Feb 6th 2017 at 3:40:08 AM

Am I only one who doesn't dislike stupidly naive blood knight Goku and think it fits him better than the dub version of him as hero? [lol]

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#51246: Feb 6th 2017 at 4:26:46 AM

Nope, I do too. And it's perfectly consistent with his previous characterization, since most of the cons of this decision aren't immediately obvious or even known yet.

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#51247: Feb 6th 2017 at 4:51:33 AM

I do like me some tragic heroes. And since Vegeta's now a traditional hero, it looks like Goku will fit that bill.

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#51248: Feb 6th 2017 at 4:54:53 AM

Watch as Goku has a blast at the tournament and no one gives him any grief over it.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#51249: Feb 6th 2017 at 5:13:08 AM

Maybe the prospect of facing stronger opponents is the cause of this. Before Beerus came along, there is nobody strong enough to fight him(Gohan doesn't like fighting, Gotenks doesn't fight as much as play). Vegeta has pretty much reach his limit training by himself.

So what you're saying is... Vegeta's afraid.

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#51250: Feb 6th 2017 at 5:25:48 AM

My predictions for Super's future: the Universe Survival arc is going to be LOOOOOONNNNGGGGG. At least as long as the Dark Tournament Arc in Yu Yu Hakusho (40 episodes), if not way longer, due to each team having twice the number of competitors. After the Universe Survival arc, we're going to have a timeskip to a retelling of the End of Z chapters, except Bra and Pan are older and Goku's fight with Uub goes differently. All episodes following are set immediately after the End of Z, and show Goku getting permission from Uub's family to train him, among other things.


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