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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#49926: Jan 19th 2017 at 8:37:45 AM

You do understand most that post here prefer the anime, right?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#49927: Jan 19th 2017 at 8:39:53 AM

Heh, that was an idea I had for a fanfic villain of mine. Using magic to "summon" the senzu bag and destroying them.

I didn't know you'd had any ideas for Fanfiction. What made you give up on it?

One Strip! One Strip!
IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#49928: Jan 19th 2017 at 8:25:41 PM

Okay, fine I was wrong. Could have sworn I remembered it that way but whatever.

I'm not sure I'd have liked all the Guerrillas Of Destiny being cats, but I'd have liked them all to have an Egyptian theme like if 6-7 was Bast gender flipped, 8-5 could be gender flipped Sekmet(lions) or perhaps gender flipped Aker(lionesses). Ganondwarf doesn't mean the Egyptian theme has been dropped just yet, though, as he could be Bes.

Buldogue's lawyer
Jedi1113 Since: Jun, 2009
#49929: Jan 19th 2017 at 8:55:25 PM

I imagine the universe pairs share a theme at least.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#49930: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:01:31 PM

[up][up]I love that Ganondwarf is catching on.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#49931: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:16:50 PM

Also, I guess Goku learning the Mafuba was Toriyama's idea, seeing as how both the anime and manga are going with that plan.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#49932: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:18:01 PM

Guess Vegetto isn't out of the question.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#49933: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:19:38 PM

That might also mean the time limit thing was also Toriyama's idea, if it does show up.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#49934: Jan 19th 2017 at 9:32:30 PM

We'll see.

I at least hope Toriyama isn't behind why the Mafuuba failed.

I doubt it though, but again, we'll see when we get there.

One Strip! One Strip!
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#49935: Jan 19th 2017 at 11:58:18 PM

Well, Zamasu stealing the Senzu and burning them is better because:

1) It makes Goku far less of a dumbass for forgetting them in the first place.

2) It makes Zamasu look more dangerous and competent by directly cutting off the heroes` way of healing themselves.

The problem with the Anime is that it relied mainly on the main characters being as stupid as possible with no justification in order to give the villains the upper hand. I don't mind the Anime, but goddamn did that stick out to me as an extremely poor attempt at raising stakes and padding the arc out.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#49936: Jan 20th 2017 at 12:25:24 AM

I'm guessing he'll use the teleport to steal the Mafuba too?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#49937: Jan 20th 2017 at 1:42:54 AM

Toyotaro might go with the less stupid option and have them do the fusion dance, instead of retconning in a time limit that wasn't there before and giving an unnecessary handwave.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#49938: Jan 20th 2017 at 1:47:40 AM

How is the time limit and the Kaioshin being somewhat wrong worse than randomly defusing inside of Buu?

Or happening 20 years ago prevent it from being stupid?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#49939: Jan 20th 2017 at 1:52:59 AM

Who even brought it up?

That's like a little kid in school trying to defend his own wrong actions by accusing someone else of wrongdoing to the teacher.

Just because something else was also dumb and came out of nowhere does not mean that this isn't dumb too.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#49940: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:04:05 AM
Thumped: for switching the discussion from the topic to a person. Doesn't take many of this kind of thump to bring a suspension. Stay on the topic, not the people in the discussion.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#49941: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:11:52 AM

I like it.

Wholly and absolutely irrelevant.

Works just fine next to Instantaneous Movement vs. Instantaneous Transmission: the divine technique is easier and better.

'easier and better'? I guess. But it's only just barely easier and better. Doing the fusion dance isn't very difficult and it doesn't actually take that long to do, and the only appreciable difference is 30 minutes... it is also nonexistent if you use a high energy consumption transformation.

To the point of making people ask why is it even a thing to begin with, narratively speaking.

It also explains neatly WHY Vegetto defused inside Buu.

No, it doesn't, because there's no way Vegetto fought for an entire hour against Majin Buu.

And, honestly, you hating something and considering it stupid is so commonplace it doesn't really carry any weight.

And honestly, one of you coming in and trying to get out of actually having to defend your argument by just saying 'oh, you just hate everything so your argument is invalid' is so commonplace that your opinion doesn't carry any weight.

edited 20th Jan '17 2:12:30 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#49942: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:19:24 AM

Dragon Ball Heroes: Victory Mission X was announced for the 3DS.

Ya think they'll ever bring those ports over the west? Especially sense this version seems to have everything up the God Missions, and even has SSJB Vegetto and Demon Goddess Towa from Super DBH.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#49943: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:23:31 AM

"No way Buu vs. Vegetto lasted for an hour"

Because you said so?

Other than that, subjective stuff.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#49944: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:24:01 AM

It is REALLY obvious that fight was a short one. That's just reaching so hard.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#49945: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:26:09 AM

Well, until we get a better explanation, I'm sticking with the one we got.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#49946: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:29:53 AM

Honestly bad air is a better explanation (still incredibly shitty) than one that is just not fitting at all. It's completely insane to look at the manga and think that fight could take an hour.

Boo was a weird, magical accident. An extension of his weirdness is a copout but not completely illfitting.

edited 20th Jan '17 2:30:49 AM by Saiga

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#49947: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:32:26 AM

Vegetto went Super Saiyan and that had to cut the time limit down.

The anime was easily an hour and it's kinda hard to tell how much time really flowed in the manga because of the medium in general.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#49948: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:43:11 AM

Kibitoshin also was pretty much Shin with Kibito's hair and outfit, while Vegetto was a composite individual, retaining two voices. Differences between Potara'd Kaioshin and non-Kaioshin were already there in the 90's, and this just builds up on that.

If it is in the Super manga, it was in Toriyama's notes. If not, well, Toei came up with it, but at least they did some research, like they have done for the filler slice of life arcs.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#49949: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:49:23 AM

Vegetto and Kibitoshin didn't have voices in the manga. Kibitoshin's fusees actually had the same outfit which puts them in a different starting position to Vegetto's.

Lazily copying the mechanics of the fusion dance is not doing research and has nothing to do with perceived differences in Kibitoshin and Vegetto.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#49950: Jan 20th 2017 at 2:55:18 AM

If it is in the Super Manga, it could very well not be in Toriyama's outline, because we don't know what Toriyama's outline was, and even if it was in Toriyama's outline, well, the man has said that Mr. Satan is a coward. Word of God can be dumb and wrong.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

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