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that's not entirely true. A few animators have apologized for the work produced, citing the terrible conditions they have been put through, and how they wished they could be doing a better job.
But they had to avoid actually saying it was Super they were talking back for fear of backlash, instead giving hints that only apply to Super.
About today episode: I really like it. Solid writing, with mayyyyybe the Ass Pull of the beginning aside.
Besides, the punchline was solid.
The art, my god, it was bad. Then again, is part of the, ehem, "filler arc", so I can't say much.
Also, Vegeta is jelly.
edited 24th Dec '16 10:42:45 PM by Tomodachi
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.@Saiga
It's likely those guys were punished for caring, too.
@Tomodachi
It's not so much comparing Toei and Madhouse as it is saying that Toei is bad for having what is arguably the biggest manga property and fucking up its anime and citing Madhouse as an example of people who made so much more with so much less.
edited 24th Dec '16 10:42:14 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
x5 I wasn't talking about the animators that worked on the show, I was talking about Toei as a whole. There are definitely some amazing or at least really good animators working on Super but that doesn't mean shit for dick if the people with all the power who call the shots don't give them what they need to work to their full ability.
edited 24th Dec '16 10:44:13 PM by Zelenal
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!Madhouse has the One Punch Man manga by Murata as source. Dragon Ball Super has the clip notes done by Toriyama, so outside of the main arcs, they basically have nothing to work with.
Is an unfair comparison. Remember, Toei had a decent thing in the 90's, because they had Dragon Ball manga as source, something they don't have now.
edited 24th Dec '16 10:48:03 PM by Tomodachi
To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
The great animation and fight choreography of Battle of Gods disproves your point.
Also, plenty of other studios create amazingly animated works that are entirely original or only have text or a handful of CGs to work off of.
edited 24th Dec '16 10:48:29 PM by Zelenal
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Oh, you mean the movie with a better budget?
Yeah, no, it doesn't disprove anything. A long running series like Super doesn't exactly have a big budget. Maybe if Super was a short season series, the animation would be top notch... but then we won't have Arale and Yamcha episodes :P
edited 24th Dec '16 10:50:43 PM by Tomodachi
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We just established that budget isn't the end-all be-all. It helps but it's not the only factor.
Besides, Pokemon XY also proves that a long running anime can look really damn good. Even people who despise the anime with every fiber of their being will often agree that the animation is really damn good.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!You do have a point. It seems as though none of the characters actually angst about what had happen to them although TFS do make jokes about Gohan possibly having some issues due to the events of the story. Aren't there some dark, deconstruction fics that touch upon this? I know Dragon Ball can be dark but it isn't as dark and angsty as Evangelion.
edited 25th Dec '16 12:00:07 AM by GAP
"Mai waifu."There's a bunch of fanfic where Gohan is messed up and angsty and all sorts of things that he very much isn't in canon, because Gohan fills the role of 'hero we're supposed to identify with', and the Buu saga is a pretty common set up - the high school thing helps a lot to the self insertion writers.
All things said, though, I'm fairly sure the entirety of Goku and Vegeta's families could sit down for dinner with Buu and not care.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariIf it works exactly like King Crimson then Hit's powers work like this:
From the instant Hit activates his powers until they stop, that time is essentially erased. People and objects will continue doing whatever they had been doing before but their actions now have no consequences. For example, if someone were to try and punch Hit and Hit skipped time, your punch would still go through but it wouldn't actually, well, hit Hit. Instead, it would basically phase through him. Once the time skip ended, your fist would be where it should be after the punch but you'd have no memory of it traveling there. During the time skip, the only actions that have consequences are Hit's so he can beat the shit out of you during it but you can't touch him.
At least, assuming his powers work exactly like King Crimson but without the limitation of what can and can't be manipulated.
Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!There are a lot of factors that can go into that though. Pokemon and Precure are done in 50 episode blocks and rotate teams where each season has basically been in production for 2+ years before airing, Super doesn't even have the rotating staff. The 'lead time' on a long runner is a huge help to animation quality, for example Gundam Seed was in production for almost 2 years Gundam Seed Destiny had 6 months...
Super's production problems and quickness to air after the movie has put it in the Destiny category of just trying to keep up with weekly releases. If Super took a year break it would be a lot better but as it stands they will just never catch up. They will just outsource the B Ds to a clean up crew and just keep chugging along.
edited 25th Dec '16 11:10:33 AM by Memers
Thing is, you're assuming that if they took a year break, the anime would be better, but... I don't think they'd use the year break to produce a proper quality product - they know they don't have to, Dragon Ball Super will sell like hotcakes regardless of how bad it is.
Dragon Ball Super is not as good as it should be because Toei doesn't care about the franchise itself, only that it makes them money.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariThat's actually real sad, a true tragic story in the making.
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