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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#46901: Nov 20th 2016 at 9:51:26 AM

Plus, saying that is like saying that there's one definite and universally agreed upon definition of 'God'.

There isn't. Zeus and YHVH are different, yet both fall under the classification of 'God'.

The definition of God in Dragon Ball seems to come down to "has Godly Ki", so there's that.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#46902: Nov 20th 2016 at 9:56:18 AM

No true god, for having a lineal vision of time rather than a not-linear one? Not every god has to be the Abrahamic one (and the Abrahamic one is a really poorly defined one, "It can do anything and knows everything" doesn't make a very interesting mythology...).

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46903: Nov 20th 2016 at 9:56:41 AM

Eastern cultures don't really portray Gods the same way Western ones do.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#46904: Nov 20th 2016 at 10:07:02 AM

Hell, take a look at Norse, Grecoroman or Egyptian mythology as well. Odin, Zeus/Jupiter, and Ra, are not even close to being absolute pinnacles. Even their position isn't absolute across time.

And even the Hebrew Mythology has more depth than Yahweh being an absolute being. Religions evolve over time, after all.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#46905: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:10:55 AM

It depends, most works even in Japan will portray the highest god in the pecking order as above it all. The Zeno button should have summoned the one Zeno we knew. There is probably someone above Zeno.

It's really surprising that there wasn't a god actually managing time in the main series, this kind of disaster would have been perfect to bring someone in to fix things.

Anyway I hope Goku really screwed up someway with introducing Zeno to Zeno.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:12:21 AM by Memers

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#46906: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:12:39 AM

Even if there was someone above Zeno it wouldn't be long before people started going "Well, there's probably someone above that person too". That line of thinking gets ridiculous pretty fast.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#46907: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:14:33 AM

I liked the casual reveal that the High Priest is Whis and Vados' father.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#46908: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:20:31 AM

Kinda doubt having 2 Zenos around would be that much of an issue, the Grand Priest, who is quite aware of who Zeno is, seems to be delighted at the idea.

Neat reveal of the connection, now I wonder if we'll ever see their mother.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#46909: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:23:06 AM

[up][up][up]Not really, we don't even ever have to see the person. But there should be some god unaffected by timelines and multiverse or at least someone managing time.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:25:47 AM by Memers

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#46910: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:24:09 AM

Why does that have to be a thing?

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46911: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:24:49 AM

Unless SkoT becomes a Canon Immigrant, such a God may not exist.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#46912: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:31:24 AM

You know, I was thinking... having two Trunks's and Mais in one timeline might explain where Supreme Kai of Time got her Trunks. She can remove him from the timestream without causing any kind of upset.

That's my headcanon now. Time Patrol Trunks is one of the two Future Trunks.

Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#46913: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:32:06 AM

[up][up] Yeah, it seems like a massive oversight to me especially with the taboo of time travel, existence of the Time Ring, and the fact that the greater gods are affected by it and not multiverses and such. Someone like the Supreme Kai of Time should exist.

edited 20th Nov '16 11:32:57 AM by Memers

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#46914: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:46:06 AM

There's literally no reason why that has to be a thing. In fact, the lack of such a being would downright be an explanation as to why the Gods really don't want multiple timelines.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#46915: Nov 20th 2016 at 11:53:42 AM

Okay, when I say God, I mean something on par with TOAA and The Presence; when I say gods I mean any deity below that.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#46916: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:00:03 PM

[up][up]I agree there doesn't need to be a God like that, or even the one being described here[up].

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#46917: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:01:11 PM

What about Toribot?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#46918: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:02:30 PM

The Toribot gets constantly owned by Arale. It's got Reality Warper powers but it ain't no omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent God.

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qtjinla15 Since: Dec, 2010
#46919: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:06:55 PM

omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent God is the worst OC of all time.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#46920: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:12:54 PM

Well, whatever interpretation of "God" you prefer, I still think Zamasu had to be one of the shittier gods. I mean, all he did was wish for immortality, hug himself in another body, then he dicked around on Earth for a little while. He then proceeded to get cut in half.

Good on him for partially succeeding in his plan, I guess. But, Earthlings aren't the only mortals out there either Zamasu...so you had a long way to go friend.

He certainly wasn't a very productive god, that's for sure. If he cared more, he could've killed a lot more people than he did.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#46921: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:23:14 PM

And then he went full Giygas.

All the hollow, grinning Zamasu faces in the sky reminded me of all the Dimentio faces in the background during Super Paper Mario's final battle.

Anyway, the fact that even the Top God is affected by timeline shenanigans gives a pretty damn good reason why none of the gods are pleased with the concept of time travel. There's no higher, unaffected god to sort out the potential mess it makes.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#46922: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:28:09 PM

Well, it's implied that Earth wasn't where he first started (I'm guessing that world Gowasu took him too came down with a bad case of exploded by an asshole god first), so we can assume a lot of worlds got Zamasu'ed well before he got to Earth.

And considering how things went in the end, we can also assume that during that last bit, he took out whoever was left.

So Zamasu may or may not have topped Pure / Kid Buu for the holy shit! he killed a lot of people! award.

One Strip! One Strip!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#46923: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:31:23 PM

Given the fact that Kid Buu was doing it for millions of years before he was finally killed... yeah, no, Zamasu sure as shit don't top Kid Buu.

edited 20th Nov '16 12:32:22 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#46924: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:33:58 PM

Zeno clearly has the highest body count. 6 Universes in the main timeline, and 6 + 1-12 universes in Trunks' timeline, depending on if he just erased U7 or everything everywhere.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#46925: Nov 20th 2016 at 12:35:54 PM

Maybe they were all evacuated... because it was sunday.

Or they were the cargo universes.

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