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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#45551: Nov 1st 2016 at 8:13:03 AM

Exactly.

It would be worse if Goku purposely didn't use it because it would be too easy.

Especially if it gets people killed because he wants a damned challenge.

Then again, maybe Toei will reveal he forgot it again. Because fuck that!

At least we're finally getting Blue Vegetto. That's more then enough for me.

One Strip! One Strip!
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#45552: Nov 1st 2016 at 8:18:10 AM

Also, just like when West Kaioshin and Kibito fused, a fused Kaioshin is pretty much the original Kaioshin with a power boost and the hairdo of the other fusee.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45553: Nov 1st 2016 at 8:35:02 AM

Although Zamasu is fusing with himself in a different body.

I re call Old Kaioushin saying that Vegetto was very balanced in his personality due to Goku and Vegeta being rivals (he did seem to have the best parts of both).

Since Zamasu and Black are the same dude, I'd assume that they'll have that same advantage, possibly on a grander scale.

This will also mark the first time Vegetto fights someone on his level. This is going to be some fight.

One Strip! One Strip!
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#45554: Nov 1st 2016 at 8:37:29 AM

This post

Toei is bad. "Giving characters things to do" when those things don't amount to anything is also bad and a waste of everyone's time. It's fine if you prefer that, but it's not my cup of tea.

I'm 100% sure Toyotarou's version is gonna be better because of how streamlined it is. There's little reason for this Arc to have only gotten to this point in 16 episodes.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#45555: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:09:29 AM

Watch, Vegetto is going to have a hard ass battle against Zamasu and then they'll just press the Zeno button and that's that. No climactic battle, just a button press and ya done.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#45556: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:16:22 AM

Well, Vegeta and Goku had the advantage one on one against either, and Zamasu by himself could only rely on his immortality and sucker punches.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#45557: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:21:18 AM

well he's likely still immortal; doesn't really matter if he's weaker if he can't die.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Tomodachi Now a lurker. See you at the forums. Since: Aug, 2012 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
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#45558: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:51:39 AM

Just added an image to the nightmare fuel page of Dragon Ball Super. I added Goku Black slasher smile at the end of the manga chapter he debuted.

Sounds cool?

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45559: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:57:42 AM

It fits the letter, I suppose.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#45560: Nov 1st 2016 at 11:29:40 AM

Honestly if/when the button is pressed, I hope Zeno doesn't kill Zamasu and just forces him to take part in his multiverse tournament, then forces Zamasu to be his friend until the tournament happens.

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#45561: Nov 1st 2016 at 1:15:04 PM

[up] I doubt that.

To win, you need to adapt, and to adapt, you need to be able to laugh away all the restraints. Everything holding you back.
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#45562: Nov 1st 2016 at 1:19:41 PM

I'm actually surprised Zeno didn't already do so in Black's future, given that Zamasu was universe hopping, killing off the deities of multiple worlds, trying to overthrow the established order of godhood and mortals across all universes, and generally being a divine asshat. It seems like the sort of thing Zeno's office is supposed to take care of.

But then, it's possible Zeno just doesn't pay much attention to what the individual gods are doing unless it suits him. He didn't seem to have a problem with Champa and Beerus meddling with each other's universes until their shenanigans introduced him to the glory that is Tournament Arcs.

edited 1st Nov '16 1:20:18 PM by KnownUnknown

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45563: Nov 1st 2016 at 2:22:44 PM

Well, it's not like he's losing anything all that important. I figure he can just wait until Tokitoki lays another egg.

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LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#45564: Nov 1st 2016 at 9:09:55 PM

The only way I can imagine the Zeno Button being a good idea is if they use it to fix all the collateral damage done in Trunks's timeline, given that it doesn't seem to have any Dragon Balls. (Besides the Namekian Dragon Balls, but maybe you could give the excuse that if the Super Dragon Balls are destroyed, all Dragon Balls are destroyed? Because they're the originals?)

But they'd better not use the excuse that "Goku left the Zeno Button at home like a dumbass" or so help me...

edited 1st Nov '16 9:10:13 PM by LOLypop1224

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#45565: Nov 2nd 2016 at 5:40:00 AM

I honestly hope it never does. That entire plot point is pretty much just a cop-out waiting to happen.

I definitely agree with this. And if Goku is willing to use it here, it's going to mean things need to get far more ridiculous to have any tension in addition to completely deflating this arc.

No point in introducing it if it never amounts to anything.

Better to be pointless than to actively damage the series. I'm hoping it's ultimately used as a joke or something other than instant solution to a problem especially not in the same arc it's introduced.

Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
Baby dango
#45566: Nov 2nd 2016 at 6:05:21 AM

Either they're going to use it to fix Zamasu's actions, or kill Zamasu with it after defeating him. Even if Goku does bring and remember the button, they probably won't use it, because they always solve problems by punching it or wishing it away.

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#45567: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:20:04 PM

I'm gonna laugh myself into a coma if it turns out the king of everything isn't actually strong at all and simply has a button he presses that destroys universes.

Because nobody said he used his powers to destroy a universe; the fandom just jumped to the conclusion that was the case.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45568: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:46:50 PM

Beerus straight up called him the strongest there is. That's not jumping to conclusions.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#45569: Nov 2nd 2016 at 2:53:19 PM

People always complain that the characters don't do the logical thing and make things harder for themselves. But now doing the logical think would be ruining the series.

Unpleasable Fanbase really is a thing.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45570: Nov 2nd 2016 at 3:15:39 PM

Beerus also once said that he brought along the strongest guy he knew to the tournament.

Beerus is a cat and as such a liar.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45571: Nov 2nd 2016 at 3:33:45 PM

His and Champas (or whatever) reaction to him didn't make it seem that way. Neither Beerus nor Whis really have a reason to lie in that situation, and the implication seems pretty clear.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45572: Nov 2nd 2016 at 3:49:40 PM

Of course.

But I like to point out that Beerus is a cat and as such he's an ass.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#45575: Nov 2nd 2016 at 4:43:01 PM

It's possible that Beerus and Champa buy into the hype and actually think he is that strong.

This song needs more love.

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