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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45226: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:03:59 PM

Well, unless Piccolo tried the last ditch effort on him that he used on Cell (Light Grenade) 17 would have won by sheer virtue of being able to continue forever while Piccolo couldn't. And even with Light Grenade, there's no guarantee 17 couldn't just dodge it or his shield wouldn't be able to withstand it.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:06:38 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45227: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:05:45 PM

17. They're nearly evenly matched, but Piccolo gets tired and 17 does not.

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#45228: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:16:46 PM

[up]x4 Except you kind of need to do villainous things to be considered a villain; that's why it's called villain. Whis did absolutely nothing villainous beyond being a chauffeur for Beerus and eating food in the background, so by no sane definition of villain does Whis fit.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:17:08 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#45229: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:32:32 PM

[up][up][up]I thought Piccolo was holding some energy back in an anticipated battle between himself and 18/16.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45230: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:35:29 PM

[up]He might have wanted to do that but as the battle went on he didn't have that luxury. From the onset of things his goals was to destroy, at a minimum, one of the twins. If he could do both great, but I don't think he actually expected to be able to beat all three.

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#45231: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:37:46 PM

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No. He goaded 18 and 16 into not interfering by daring 17 to fight him by himself. Plus, 16 probably wouldn't have done anything since he only wanted to fight Goku, and since 18 is a little weaker then 17, she likely couldn't have beaten Piccolo.

So his real mistake was not beating up the weaker 18 (and why exactly is she weaker, beyond a Hand Wave of Gero thought it'd make her easier to control?).

Oh well. It's not like the fight had any point beyond help Cell find the Androids.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:38:06 PM by HandsomeRob

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45232: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:38:41 PM

So 3 votes for moving Beerus and Whis, 1 against.

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#45233: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:43:12 PM

[up][up]That is a good point, Cell does need the both of them.

All you had to do was press the remote Krillin. Just push a button.

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#45234: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:44:44 PM

I'd be up for moving Beerus and Whis.

Also, 17 would've eventually won, but he's pretty damn cocky. I think that Piccolo's ultimate move would severely damage or outright kill him, if he decide to face-tank it.

That said, he's not stupid enough to try that : DBZ characters are not suicidal, if the move is dangerous, he's going to try to do something.

edited 23rd Oct '16 2:45:45 PM by Bolded1

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#45235: Oct 23rd 2016 at 2:56:18 PM

Not to mention, Cell was still on the loose looking for 17 and 18 and he is much stronger than Piccolo.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45236: Oct 23rd 2016 at 3:04:14 PM

Unfortunately, Gojira, Whis is a villain in Battle of Gods whether you like it or not.

You can say "but he didn't do anything" as much as you want, but it does not change the fact that he was part of the 'team' of the villains. He's not particularly evil, but you don't need to be super evil in order to be a villain. Because as much as you keep saying 'well he needs to do something villainous', you can't change the fact that he did, simply by setting Beerus loose on Earth. He could've always stopped Beerus with a chop to the back of the neck whenever he wanted.

Whis is a movie villain.

Is he evil?

Not really, he's apathetic at worst.

But he's still one of the two villains of the movie.

edited 23rd Oct '16 3:05:42 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#45237: Oct 23rd 2016 at 3:11:28 PM

Except you're confusing villain with antagonist here; they're not the same thing.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45238: Oct 23rd 2016 at 3:43:11 PM

Oh, because bringing about a world ending threat to a populated world is totally a non villainous thing to do.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#45239: Oct 23rd 2016 at 3:58:20 PM

Well, they weren't going there to blow up the Earth.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#45240: Oct 23rd 2016 at 4:09:58 PM

I am also for moving them to super.

edited 23rd Oct '16 4:10:27 PM by Envyus

Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
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#45241: Oct 23rd 2016 at 4:30:41 PM

Whis is just plain neutral. He does not help the good guys, but he never join Beerus in his destructive antics either.

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#45242: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:13:17 PM

Though these days Beerus has no problem helping the heroes, he's just tsundere about it.

@Hardcorefakes: Except destroying the time machine was one of the first things Black did. The one they were using now was Cell's and this episode was the only time he actually had the opportunity to destroy it.

edited 23rd Oct '16 5:15:15 PM by Cortez

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#45243: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:14:13 PM

[up][up]What about when he reversed time so Goku could kill Frieza to prevent him from destroying the Earth?

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#45244: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:28:44 PM

Beerus and Whis have just been moved to the Super page.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#45245: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:38:51 PM

Oh. My. God. :]

edited 23rd Oct '16 5:48:12 PM by Soble

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#45246: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:41:00 PM

Oh my God, that was so cute!!

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45247: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:52:33 PM

@LSBK

Knowing Beerus, and knowing the fact that the slightest thing might set him off...

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#45248: Oct 23rd 2016 at 5:59:48 PM

Gohand just had to make her do the super hero thing...she could've stayed a regular hero.

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#45249: Oct 23rd 2016 at 6:09:14 PM

  • sigh* It's moments like that that make miss them going out moonlighting as heroes.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#45250: Oct 23rd 2016 at 6:42:07 PM

And it also reminds you that they only stopped because Japan still thinks that a woman's proper place is at home and that grown adult men should lead quiet lives.

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