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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#45201: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:23:46 AM

Its nice to know Zamasu is aware at how narcissistic he is, you don't get that a lot in villains like him.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#45202: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:28:06 AM

So, uhm what happened to Black ability to grow stronger mid-battle? It didn't look like it happened here.

edited 23rd Oct '16 8:32:44 AM by Shlugo_the_great

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45203: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:33:03 AM

Well, it has to either be limited or removed at some point, otherwise he'd just grow too strong too quickly and be impossible to defeat.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45204: Oct 23rd 2016 at 8:33:47 AM

Maybe Vegeta's training made his so strong that once he finally got a large enough lead, Black's Super Zenkai wasn't enough.

Like, he is getting stronger, but Vegeta is so much stronger Black may as well be Vegeta post Zenkai to Vegeta's True form Frieza.

It doesn't make any difference.

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Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#45205: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:09:29 AM

Honestly, I can't really understand how Goku and Vegeta haven't surpassed Beerus by the Universe 6 Saga. Beerus had to use over half his strength against a regular Super Saiyan God, and Goku and Vegeta had three years worth of training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber after they achieved a form that was stronger that the red Super Saiyan God coupled with how we there's no indication if Beerus got stronger after meeting Goku and Vegeta...yeah I don't really know how.

I guess if you train for the sake of something you care about in the Dragon Ball Universe, you'd get much stronger in a shorter amount of time considering how strong Vegeta's gotten in only six months of training.

Well, Power Levels are bullshit I guess

edited 23rd Oct '16 9:11:05 AM by Awesomekid42

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45206: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:11:56 AM

Beerus being at 70% was a detail exclusive to the Battle of Gods film. Both the Super anime and manga avoid making a statement to that effect.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45207: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:13:34 AM

Maybe Beerus was training in secret too.

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Bolded1 Fate, guide me from behind you!!!!!!!! Since: Mar, 2015
Fate, guide me
#45208: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:32:25 AM

Beerus simply did not use 70% of his power. It'd be more akin to, say, 40 or 30% :p

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#45209: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:33:06 AM

"Zamasu, I don't think they're listening to you."

"That's fine. I just like giving overly grandiose speeches."

That was so self-aware that I'm surprised it wasn't a joke in an abridged series.

I had a pretty good chuckle at that and Trunks destroying Black and Zamasu's summer retreat.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#45210: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:37:07 AM

Oh, and Black immediately destroying the time machine literally seconds after I wondered if he was going to do it.

Awesomekid42 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: It was only a kiss
#45211: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:41:39 AM

I don't know. When he admits that he used 10 percent of his power against Vegeta, it just gives me a gut feeling that he used more than half against God Goku. Especially when God Goku in Super had an overall better showing than in Battle of Gods.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45212: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:50:42 AM

Until something substantiates Beerus' power, there's no proof of anything beyond metaphorical statements in-universe and Toriyama's plan to keep Goku and Vegeta weaker than Beerus and Whis out of universe.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#45213: Oct 23rd 2016 at 9:57:08 AM

Oh yeah for those who don't know there are offical subs now on crunchyroll.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#45214: Oct 23rd 2016 at 12:03:26 PM

[up]x4 About time he just outright shot it, instead of bumbling around like Skeletor and letting the characters constantly get away and come back at will.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45215: Oct 23rd 2016 at 12:37:56 PM

Excuse you, it's not Skeletor's fault that he can't be allowed to end He Man. He'd be out of a job if he did!

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45216: Oct 23rd 2016 at 12:44:01 PM

Hey guys, should we move Beerus and Whis from the Dragon Ball Z Movie Villains page to the Dragon Ball Super page?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45217: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:14:05 PM

Well, they were originally Movie Villains, so I think they should stay there, with a note saying that they are the only set of movie villains that are actually 'canon'.

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Memers Since: Aug, 2013
#45218: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:16:52 PM

They started there but since the movie was basically absorbed and greatly expanded on in Super they should probably be on Super's page.

Also 'villain' is extremely dubious, they are more characters than that.

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:19:00 PM by Memers

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#45219: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:22:26 PM

You could just make a new subpage for Gods and Deities and the like; there are enough of them.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45220: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:24:52 PM

Uh, no, dude, they were very definitely the antagonists and villains of Battle of Gods. Wanting to blow up Earth is not a very nice thing.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#45221: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:39:23 PM

Whis did all of jack shit in that movie beyond eating; he barely counts as a villain.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#45222: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:40:29 PM

I feel they should be moved to the Super page. for the the reasons [up][up][up][up]gave.

edited 23rd Oct '16 1:40:42 PM by VeryMelon

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#45224: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:55:23 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, because every villain totally needs to do everything in order to be considered a villain.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#45225: Oct 23rd 2016 at 1:56:05 PM

...

So....who do you think would have won between 17 and Piccolo if their fight had continued?

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