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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#44626: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:34:26 AM

I'm not even the tiniest bit surprised by this. Expected it ever since we saw Zamasu and Black working together.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#44627: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:35:01 AM

61: Zamasu's Ambition: The Zero Humans Plan

With Zamasu defeated, Beerus is convinced that Future Trunks’ timeline has become peaceful once again. Although hesitant, Future Trunks decides to go back to his timeline to make sure that is the case. Goku, Vegeta, and Bulma accompany him. As soon as they arrive, they realize that nothing has changed. Future Zamasu and Goku Black learn of Goku and the others’ return. The two groups meet shortly after. Goku Black reveals himself to be Zamasu who had stolen another timeline’s body of Goku with the wish granted by the Super Dragon Balls. Goku Black used its potential to grow stronger than Goku himself.

62: I'll Protect the World! Trunks's Angry Super Power Explosion!!

Son Goku and co. have eliminated the Zamasu in the present, but the future still hasn’t changed. In order to defeat Zamasu and Goku Black for sure this time, Goku and co. have come to the future once again, but Zamasu and Goku Black’s battle power far surpasses their own. Future Trunks tries to stand against them, but they accuse him “you are the cause of it all.” Super Trunks has a tough fight tackling Goku Black and Zamasu. While he holds them off, Goku and co. return to the present. Vegeta says “we can’t beat them in a head-on battle”, but Piccolo replies “in that case, there is one thing you can do.

63: Don't Defile Saiyan Cells! The Curtain Rises on Vegeta's Intense Battle!!

While Future Trunks faces off against Zamasu and Black, Goku and Vegeta temporarily return to the world of the present in order to think of a way to defeat them. As Goku and Vegeta search for a method of defeating Zamasu and Black, Piccolo says “you might be able to defeat them with the Mafuba.” Although Trunks puts his life on the line battling against Zamasu and Goku Black in order to protect the world of the future, Goku Black inflicts critical damage on him, and is about to finish him off. However, at that moment Goku and Vegeta return to the battlefield.

64: Praise and Adore Him! The Explosive Birth of Merged Zamasu!!

65: Final Judgement?! The Supreme God's Ultimate Power

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edited 7th Oct '16 11:38:37 AM by VeryMelon

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#44628: Oct 7th 2016 at 2:16:02 PM

Fucking Called it!

I still think it would be funny if the arc is resolved by Goku remembering he has a button that summon Zenou. And telling him that Zamasu is the friend he was talking about so Zenou makes him entertain him forever.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#44629: Oct 7th 2016 at 2:29:57 PM

Well, since I got my last prediction about Black being Zombie Goku right, I guess I can make another wild prediction.

I'm calling it. Mafuba will fail.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44630: Oct 7th 2016 at 2:33:22 PM

[up]

Well yeah.

It's only ever worked a grand total of once. Every other time, it failed (or in the case of Tien's attempt in the manga, might have worked if he hadn't broken his Rice Cooker before hand).

....So if they specifically asked for Android 16 to be revived, do you think it would happen?

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#44631: Oct 7th 2016 at 2:35:30 PM

The dragon can put back together a whole planet, completely with everything on it exactly as it was. I think he can manage rebuilding one Android.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#44632: Oct 7th 2016 at 2:36:00 PM

Guess it depends on the wording.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#44633: Oct 7th 2016 at 2:40:43 PM

Well then, we can add this along the lack of reviving King Kai to the Z warriors being neglectful.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44634: Oct 7th 2016 at 3:39:52 PM

See, that joke didn't work because Kaiou specifically didn't want to be revived. He wanted to travel with Goku on his training journey through the afterlife. The folks over at Toei just forgot that.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#44635: Oct 7th 2016 at 5:07:57 PM

Black isn't Zombie Goku. Zamasu confirmed that Goku was alive because he killed him with his own body.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#44636: Oct 7th 2016 at 5:13:27 PM

Goku is dead, therefore, his body is a zombie.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44637: Oct 7th 2016 at 5:20:46 PM

Not true; his body would technically be chilling in the Afterlife, so he's still "alive" in a sense.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#44638: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:09:03 PM

No it wasn't. Goku's body was alive when Zamasu took it over.

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#44639: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:33:26 PM

Except he would have been dead of a heart virus by that point, because the only thing that saves Goku from any timeline from not dying of it is Trunks arriving in the timeline to give him the heart medicine, that wasn't synthesized until after Goku had died from it.

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#44640: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:11:41 PM

To Recap: Zamasu took over Goku's body and then killed him. He never said it was Future Goku, you know, the one who is dead. He simply said A Goku.

According to the manga, Black just went to Trunks timeline because Beerus was dead there.

Also: HOLY SHIT WE SAW GOKU BEING KILLED IN THE OPENING... IN ZAMASU BODY!

edited 7th Oct '16 9:14:35 PM by Tomodachi

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#44641: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:34:30 PM

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Yup.

Someone pointed that out in the Fridge Horror section of Super. It was pretty damned clever when you think about it.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44642: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:38:53 PM

Again, that still wouldn't explain the problem of, you know, Goku somehow living past the heart virus, because the split point for all the timelines has been after the Frieza Saga, after Goku contracted the damn thing.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#44643: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:40:15 PM

Unless it's something like a movie timeline where Goku and company never went to Namek. If they don't go to Namek then Goku doesn't end up on Yardrat. If Goku doesn't end up on Yardrat then no heart virus.

edited 7th Oct '16 9:40:48 PM by Zelenal

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#44644: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:40:32 PM

I just figured out the big secret of this arc: There was never a Zamasu. It was always Ginyu.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#44645: Oct 7th 2016 at 10:19:11 PM

[up][up] The virus has nothing to do with Yardrat.

The Goku that Zamasu body-jacked would be from a timeline where he was cured off the timeline, not one based on Future Trunks' timeline. Remember, when Trunks travels at the start of the arc, he'd split the timeline again. Zamasu could have stolen Goku's body from the timeline we didn't see from that split.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#44646: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:57:37 PM

But it's an alien heart virus, wasn't it?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#44647: Oct 8th 2016 at 12:09:20 AM

No, it wasn't...it was just some generic heart virus.

Turning SSJ made it act faster or something like that.

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#44649: Oct 8th 2016 at 2:16:34 AM

Like, we're literally going to find out the answers to this tomorrow.

Black and Zamasu fusing was also an idea I'd heard a lot. Makes sense. And it's a much better power-up method for a villain for the final battle than just "lol jk they were actually hiding their true power and weren't telling you"

And I'd been expecting Vegetto since Black was shown off with a Potara. It'd be a bit weird narratively, though. Like, if it's the Battle of Fusions, what would make Vegetto a...better...fusion than literally a fusion of the same guy in different bodies? Thinking kind of thematically here. Or maybe I can accept Dragon Ball doesn't always have themes and stop thinking like that.

...this is what happens when I watch too much Steven Universe.

edited 8th Oct '16 2:19:03 AM by LOLypop1224

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Ikedatakeshi Baby dango from singapore Since: Nov, 2015 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#44650: Oct 8th 2016 at 3:36:12 AM

[up] Different personality and skill sets making up for each other's weaknesses? Zamasu is still Zamasu in his fused state, so it only provide more power. It's like combining a gun and a bigger gun compared to combining a gun and a grenade. You get a grenade launcher with the latter.

edited 8th Oct '16 3:37:38 AM by Ikedatakeshi


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