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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#44601: Oct 6th 2016 at 5:37:35 PM

wild mass guessThe next arc features a dark secret from Yamaha's past as a bandit, requiring him to step up and help save everyone. However, he then dies before he can do anything, thus forcing Goku and Vegeta to solve everything on their own anyway. Which, to add insult to injury, they do easily.wild mass guess

edited 6th Oct '16 5:38:17 PM by KnownUnknown

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#44602: Oct 6th 2016 at 10:20:48 PM

Apparently, Goku Black is Present Zamasu, the one Beerus killed.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#44603: Oct 7th 2016 at 3:57:41 AM

Okay, I'm saying it: anyone who hasn't seen, read, or is even remotely familiar with the events of the first third of the manga doesn't deserve to call themself a true fan of Dragon Ball. Tropes Are Tools, and I feel this is actually a legitimate usage of No True Scotsman.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#44604: Oct 7th 2016 at 4:00:02 AM

Exactly, missing the third of a series makes no sense, especially the first third. Like, seriously why would anyone start with android saga and not Raditz arrival?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#44605: Oct 7th 2016 at 4:02:36 AM

Anyone who is unfamiliar with the events before Raditz' arrival, you sarcastic nitpicker.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#44606: Oct 7th 2016 at 6:46:11 AM

[up][up][up] that's just bollocks

the only criteria to being a fan to something is liking what you see enough to call yourself a fan.

Everything before Raditz is wholly unnecessary for that

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#44607: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:16:51 AM

There's no such thing as legitimate usage of No True Scotsman. Being illegitimate and illogical is what makes it a fallacy.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:21:09 AM by LSBK

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#44608: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:35:39 AM

The XV2 website updated with two character pages:

The site's roster is incomplete since it's missing pages for some characters like Final Form Frieza, Time Breaker Yamcha, DBS Trunks, etc. Weirdly enough, though, is that Videl seems to have two character slots, for long and short hair versions.

Considering that this roster only shows off different characters, this addition is something that baffles me a ton. Do y'all think it's an error, or is there really gonna be 3 Videls (including Great Saiyawoman) in XV2?

Also, on the Super DBH side of things, here's a couple of pics from the Binder Box Set:

In that second pic, there seems to be a Super Saiyan we've never seen before. The character's hair is big and spiky, they seem to have Time Patrol Vegeta's armor, but they're also wearing black baggy pants and a something long. Do you think this might be...

Time Patrol Vegetto?

Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#44609: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:46:05 AM

I really hate Slug's design.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44610: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:48:29 AM

that's just bollocks the only criteria to being a fan to something is liking what you see enough to call yourself a fan. Everything before Raditz is wholly unnecessary for that

Part of me thinks you have a point since, lets be honest, the events of Dragon Ball rarely have any impact on the series unless Toriyama decides to have them have impact. Characters and events are mostly forgotten until he bothers to care (The Red Ribbon Army, Pilaf's gang, etc).

Another part of me thinks that, if you are going to watch a show late in the game, you should at least be aware of things that happened before you started watching a little. Even if you don't look them up. I know about a few things that happened in, say Negima, even if I started really reading the story later on, because these things were mentioned and I asked what they were. I find it hard to believe that some people wouldn't read old summaries and learn about the Mafuuba, or even watch or read the older Dragonball at some point.

I'm gonna go 50/50 on the issue.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#44611: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:50:02 AM

The point is not acting elitist about this.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44612: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:53:37 AM

........

Fair enough.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#44613: Oct 7th 2016 at 7:58:42 AM

Nobody watched Dragon Ball.

(Four days earlier)

Nope :D

Come on son, the average person I've talked to don't acknowledge Dragon Ball.

Don't mind me, I'm just here sipping on this cup of juice. But that's none of my business.

edited 7th Oct '16 7:58:59 AM by BlackYakuzu94

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44614: Oct 7th 2016 at 8:04:55 AM

Whose quotes are those?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#44615: Oct 7th 2016 at 8:35:37 AM

Zenal's from the last page that linked that guy asking about Mafuba, and mine for four days earlier saying that nobody acknowledges Dragon Ball.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#44616: Oct 7th 2016 at 8:38:40 AM

Fan elitism sucks.

That said, if you've only watched DBZA, never seen the original (and don't intend to) and call yourself a DB fan, I have a great deal of unbridled fury for you.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#44617: Oct 7th 2016 at 8:41:58 AM

Well a lot of people take DBZA to be "official" or even better than the original so...

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#44618: Oct 7th 2016 at 8:52:40 AM

I am against elitism of any form. Although I do get annoyed how many people claimed to be Dragon Ball fans and they don't know shit about the first third the series. That is how we get BS like people wondering if Goku can read, because they don't know that Goku was reading a porn book just fine during his training with Roshi. Or how people think Mr. Satan and Videl are stronger than all the characters in the original Dragon Ball, when Goku, Krillin, Roshi, and even Bora were tanking bullets from machine guns. Or how Master Roshi blew up the freaking moon.

The Abridge fans who only watched the abridge and call themselves Dragon Ball fans also tick me off. Especially when they put Abridge tropes and characterizations on the main page. I also see fans quoting Abridge as something like people who quote Monty Python. It stops being cute and funny.

edited 7th Oct '16 8:55:33 AM by Ramona122003

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#44619: Oct 7th 2016 at 8:55:53 AM

Yeah being a fan of one does not make you a fan of the other. As much as people might say Abridged is better (a view that I personally can not understand), it's ultimately a separate product.

edited 7th Oct '16 8:58:23 AM by LordVatek

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Cruherrx I say things. from my own little world Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
I say things.
#44620: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:00:22 AM

[up][up][up]Those people need to be purged. Purged.

[up][up]I'm actually okay with people only seeing Z. The DB portion comes up so rarely it's basically trivia. I mean, if you want to enjoy the series to its full potential, I highly recommend checking out DB, but it's not that important. The franchise tends to ignore it, even, with only the occasional nod.

"If you weren't so crazy I'd think you were insane."
Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, bitch! from In a Cultivation World (Ancient one) Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
Face me now, bitch!
#44621: Oct 7th 2016 at 9:59:14 AM

SSB 3 might be Quadruple ass-pull power, but it has nothing on Keijo!!!!!!!! Ass-pull power

edited 7th Oct '16 10:03:23 AM by Demongodofchaos2

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MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#44622: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:19:57 AM

Okay, so there are scans for the episode titles and summaries up to episode 65. And you thought the Mafuba/Evil Sealing Wave being brought up again was a big surprise? Well episode 64's title points to Black and Zamasu fusing to become the "Supreme God Zamasu".

Welp. People calling for the Potara fusions to come back sure got their wish, heh.

edited 7th Oct '16 11:21:06 AM by MyssaRei

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#44623: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:22:48 AM

Mind posting them here?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#44624: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:32:28 AM

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Well that just sounds unfair.

I wonder if that means we'll finally get Super Saiyan Blue Vegetto?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#44625: Oct 7th 2016 at 11:34:21 AM

Wait, Since Future Zamasu is immortal, does that make Merged Zamasu also Immortal? Also, would he keep SSJR as well, because that seems pretty OP...


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