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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43951: Sep 23rd 2016 at 4:46:58 PM

That extra "T" actually makes the combined name more even...

Saiyan Prince still has an extra letter, so there's that.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#43952: Sep 23rd 2016 at 5:40:57 PM

Ah a clue.

In the manga version - and boy was I wrong about Trunks handling that fight - in the manga version the Supreme Kais are dead, and Black was watching the whole affair. And 'hey, he actually shows relief that he found a timeline where the God of Destruction doesn't exist. So I guess he's afraid of Beerus just like everybody else, huh.

But wait, Black has been Marty Mcflying his way through the multiverse looking for a universe without Beerus so he can wipe out all of the humans? What a wuss. I mean a smart wuss but still. And does his plan actually involve eradicating mankind from "every timeline" then? Or is he just cutting his losses and looking to kill off mankind in at least one timeline, and Trunks's drew the short stick?

And I know the translation is a bit iffy on this, but is Zamasu going after all "mortals" or all "humans." Because while that sucks either way, Zamasu is... he's batdamned godshit insane if he thinks can kill "all mortals." Sure he can maybe blow up planets but given that Black is personally executing people on the fly for the hell of it instead of just blowing up the planet this mission is going to take forever to complete.

...though I suppose he did just wish for immortality.

edited 23rd Sep '16 5:51:52 PM by Soble

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43953: Sep 23rd 2016 at 6:05:59 PM

Gogetta is Goku X Magetta, Gogetto is Goku X Vegetto.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43954: Sep 23rd 2016 at 7:13:02 PM

[up][up] Zamasu, for all his posturing about how mortal beings are dangerous and must be wiped out for the good of a just utopia, is really doing this because he finds their existence a personal insult to his perceived moral superiority and their potential an insult to his sense of physical superiority. That this was all kicked off because a mortal dared to best him in a fight (and not show complete deference to the gods in general) is very telling.

He's like a mad king putting his own peasantry on the block because a few of them dared to talk back.

He has the time, sure, but him being perfectly fine with methodically wiping out everything that isn't a God one by one instead of doing it the practical way in one straight shot - especially since he and Black are more than capable of doing so - just shows how much of a sadistic and vindictive hypocrite Zamasu really is. He's making them suffer for daring to exist, laughing all the way.

edited 23rd Sep '16 7:14:41 PM by KnownUnknown

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43955: Sep 23rd 2016 at 7:36:53 PM

"Beerus sleeps on the other side of the galaxy, and they were caught by surprise.

Alternatively, they couldn't ask for Beerus' help in the canon Buu Saga because he didn't exist yet. The Super manga is just following suit."

This is actually a small plot hole. In the movie and Super, the Supreme Kai didn't know who Beerus was. Old Kai had to tell him, so Kibito's statement about killing Buu is Beerus' job makes no sense since they didn't know about Beerus until recently.

Also, as it has been said many times, Zamasu and Black doesn't want to destroy planets, just kill the mortal. Black expressed grief when he saw how damaged the Earth was because he was trying to kill the insects known as humans. Also, Black looking for a timeline without Beerus makes little sense since he can easily kill the Supreme Kai himself and he did just that to the other Supreme Kais in the other Universes. Beerus, by his own admission, shouldn't be the strongest God of Destruction.

edited 23rd Sep '16 7:40:47 PM by Ramona122003

Mega_zxa Since: Mar, 2015
#43956: Sep 23rd 2016 at 8:36:10 PM

Hmm... interesting it seems as though Beerus has met Black before. Blacks words seem to imply that Beerus has stopped him before. Also a theory on what may be Zamasu's end game. [[Spoiler: Zamasu is planning on making the Future Trunks timeline the dominant timeline such as if in the dominant time line all mortals are dead the effects of it will spread to all the other timelines and all mortals will disappear.]]

[up] Actually it can make a bit of sense, the point in time that we see Black talking about there being no Beerus most likely happens before he kills off all of the other Supreme Kais and Go Ds of the universes in that time-line and since Whis and Beerus seem to be a bit more hands on than the others of their group they could always end up stopping him some how which is why he searched for a specific time-line that didn't have Beerus in it.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#43957: Sep 23rd 2016 at 9:32:42 PM

You mean like causing a Time Crash that causes all the timelines to merge?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#43958: Sep 23rd 2016 at 9:41:28 PM

Actually, did they imply that Black ended up killing the Supreme Kai(s) of the other 11 universes in Trunks timeline?

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#43959: Sep 24th 2016 at 1:00:00 AM

The anime has not implied that Black has killed any gods. Thus far, the only one thought to be dead is Gowasu.

EDIT: Derp, I see we're really talking more about the manga here. Haven't read it so I have no comment on that. Carry on.

edited 24th Sep '16 1:01:10 AM by DarkHunter

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43960: Sep 24th 2016 at 2:09:04 AM

In the manga, Black tells Trunks he murdered all the gods. Making him happy that someone killed the U7 Supreme Kais weird, since killing them shouldn't be an issue for him. And him making Beerus as troubling specifically is even weirder since given the conversation between the Supreme Kai and Kibito, Beerus is one of the laziest gods since he didn't kill Majin Buu who wiped out most of the gods. By that, Black could have wiped out half of the universe before Beerus did anything.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
coolest_guy
#43961: Sep 24th 2016 at 11:54:11 AM

[up]And now you're just wondering where the heck Whis is in all of this.

Guess the guy just really couldn't care less.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43962: Sep 24th 2016 at 12:44:20 PM

Whis literally offers Goku Beerus' job right in front of Beerus. Whis does not give one iota of a fuck.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#43963: Sep 24th 2016 at 12:46:48 PM

Which makes little sense really, cause if Goku had accepted, would he be tied to the Supreme Kais as well? How does that work?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43964: Sep 24th 2016 at 12:48:17 PM

Upon seeing their boss show up unannounced, Whis and Vados' very first move is to sell out Beerus and Champa in all of their flaws.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43965: Sep 24th 2016 at 12:52:40 PM

To be fair, there are a lot of flaws to list from those two.

Whoever had the bright idea to make a pair of cats into gods of destruction should be shot repeatedly.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43966: Sep 24th 2016 at 12:55:17 PM

It seems like Whis and Vados are the ones who picked them, so maybe they did it just to have someone they could legitimately pin a bunch of shit on.

edited 24th Sep '16 12:58:07 PM by LSBK

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#43967: Sep 24th 2016 at 5:30:11 PM

So Beerus Erased present day Zamasu.

Also, today we learned that Future Zamasu and Black currently live together in a house in the mountains when they aren't killing mortals.

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43968: Sep 24th 2016 at 5:37:49 PM

I smell a sitcom.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43969: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:16:14 PM

You smell a sitcom, I smell a romcom.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#43970: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:23:27 PM

Apparently Beerus erased Zamasu from all timelines?

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#43971: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:24:09 PM

[up][up]https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/1_whynotboth.jpg

edited 24th Sep '16 6:24:42 PM by Anomalocaris20

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#43972: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:30:27 PM

I'm intrigued by the fact that there's apparently an explicit top five list of the best fighters in the whole multiverse, and the little guy from Whis's race who follows the King of Everything around is one of them. Think we'll meet the other four?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43973: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:31:55 PM

I assume that Zeno and his bodyguards are also in the top five, though I am curious about the fifth.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#43974: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:45:00 PM

Shenron Goku from GT managed to transcend time and space and entered the main timeline?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#43975: Sep 24th 2016 at 6:51:58 PM

Too bad time travel shenanigans make it so that Beerus offing present Zamasu in no way affects the timeline Trunks came from.


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