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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43701: Sep 11th 2016 at 12:16:55 AM

Pure evil means not having good at all. Super Buu had several good people within him, so by definition he can't be pure evil. We don't see enough of Buff Buu to know his personality, but even Buff Buu wouldn't fit the definition of pure evil.

The point is, Super Buu wanted to be evil and acted on it. He wasn't like Kid Buu who destroyed and killed for fun, and was nearly mindless, or like Fat Buu who was mostly misguided. Super Buu knew what he was doing was evil, had the conscious to know what he was doing was wrong, and still did it. He is no different than Frieza or Cell. Which is why he has a Complete Monster entry since 'pure evil' characters can't be put on that page.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43702: Sep 11th 2016 at 12:54:05 AM

its his fucking name

not a description

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43703: Sep 11th 2016 at 1:57:30 AM

What are you even referring to?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43704: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:05:34 AM

Evil Boo...the repressed grey one.

edited 11th Sep '16 2:05:58 AM by randomness4

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#43705: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:07:24 AM

The one that wasn't mentioned in the entire comment above?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43706: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:11:20 AM

Thas the only thing he could be referring to.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#43707: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:07:12 AM

So that was a neat episode of DBS.

Time to beat Zamasu up in about 2 weeks.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#43708: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:13:37 AM

[up][up][up] Not in the comment about, but in the conversation it is part of.

Besides, it's the same personality as Evil Boo anyway.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#43709: Sep 11th 2016 at 4:00:12 AM

This arc has been so strange compared to other parts of Dragon Ball. We've literally had more of people preparing for fights and uncovering mysteries than the fights themselves. Heck, we haven't even really had much training. It's just "let's figure out what exactly is going on before we go and fight".

I still really like the fact that they got their ass kicked last episode. It was totally unexpected, but it really helps nail in the fact that if they go back, they seriously need more of a plan than just "get more Senzu".

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43710: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:02:47 AM

"its his fucking name not a description"

As far as I am aware, none of the Buu forms have official names. In the manga, he is called Majin Buu no matter what form he's in. So, the grey Buu being called Evil Buu was never in the manga. So, it really isn't his name, just a title given to separate him. Like Fat Buu isn't actually called Fat Buu and Kid Buu isn't called that. The closest name for him in the manga is Pure Buu.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#43711: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:08:20 AM

Doesn't Majin mean Evil God/Being?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#43712: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:09:41 AM

Specifically it means either "demon god" or "devil"

I admit, "Demon God Buu" has a nice ring to it.

edited 11th Sep '16 10:10:09 AM by BlackYakuzu94

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43713: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:10:13 AM

Depends on how it's written. The Kanji literally translates to "demon/devil person".

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43714: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:34:16 AM

This arc has been so strange compared to other parts of Dragon Ball. We've literally had more of people preparing for fights and uncovering mysteries than the fights themselves. Heck, we haven't even really had much training. It's just "let's figure out what exactly is going on before we go and fight".

Vegeta already said that Goku and he were near their limit during the Champa Saga when they went to train for three years in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. So even if they did train, they won't become much stronger. And that also wouldn't solved Zamasu being an immortal. I do wonder if Goku's plan could work since it was only shot down because there weren't enough Senzus. Not that it is impossible.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43715: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:42:09 AM

Vegeta says a lot of things.

He's usually wrong about a lot of things and then dies.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#43716: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:51:23 AM

Goku agreed with Vegeta when he said it. And the last time Goku made a comment about reaching their limits was the Cell Games. Which he was proven right since Trunks and Vegeta didn't get much stronger after spending another year in the Hypobolic Time Chamber.

edited 11th Sep '16 10:53:56 AM by Ramona122003

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#43717: Sep 11th 2016 at 10:56:05 AM

You forget that Toriyama himself said that Saiyans can overcome any limit; there's really no such thing as a hard limit for these guys.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43718: Sep 11th 2016 at 11:03:44 AM

When did he say that? I can believe it because of the kind of story this is but "Toriyama said" is a pretty infamous statement.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#43719: Sep 11th 2016 at 11:12:33 AM

@Ramona

Provided what you said about reaching their limit is true (IIRC, in the Spanish version Goku said that it was unnecessary to go back in, not that it wouldn't give them any benefit), then it only supports Goku being wrong again.

Because Goku was incredibly wrong. There was not one but two transformations that he could unlock to further increase his power and there was still a whole lot of improvement he could've made to his base form.

The characters are not omniscient, they don't actually know the limits of Saiyans. Nobody knows how far Saiyans can go.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#43720: Sep 11th 2016 at 11:15:31 AM

I thought Goku's point was even if they could go further, going in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber again would be counterproductive at that point.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#43721: Sep 11th 2016 at 11:21:03 AM

Goku and Vegeta are going to get stronger eventually. They just don't know how yet.

edited 11th Sep '16 11:22:46 AM by VeryMelon

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#43722: Sep 11th 2016 at 11:36:04 AM

You know, now I'm really starting to think Zamasu is once again a Red Herring.

There's such an Orgy of Evidence against him that I can't help but feel there's still a curve ball left on what's really going down.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#43723: Sep 11th 2016 at 12:24:07 PM

They could always try fusion again.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#43724: Sep 11th 2016 at 12:33:29 PM

Geez, Zamasu, couldn't you just wish to eradicate all the humans everywhere instantly?

Even when villains are smart, they are stupid.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

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