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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#42526: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:04:03 PM

So then where the heck does that leave the move Goku used against Super 17?

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#42527: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:04:50 PM

In the same league as when he used the move on Eis and Omega.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42528: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:07:26 PM

Except he wasn't a SSJ 4 when doing it.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#42529: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:17:35 PM

Well Budokai Tenkaichi 3 gave us four versions of the damn thing; SS3 End Goku had the Dragon Fist from Movie 13 as his Ultimate Blast, Base GT Goku had the one he used on Super 17 as one of his Blast 2's, SS3 GT Goku had the same one as his Ultimate Blast, though this time with the Kamehameha he used to finish off Super 17, and SS4 GT Goku had the Eis Shenron version as his Ultimate Blast.

Personally, I just call those Dragon Fist Explosion, Dragon Fist, Dragon (Fist) Kamehameha, and Super Dragon Fist, since they all had the same name ingame.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#42530: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:39:56 PM

So I just realized:

Beam Spam attacks in Dragonball never work (the one time it came close to being a threat was when Vegeta used it on Gohan, and even then, he was dodging the attacks even if only just barely).

That's why Piccolo invented the Hellzone Grenade. Since those attacks never do anything (being either dodged, deflected or not doing any damage) he figured that letting them gather up and then setting them off all at once was a better idea.

Sure, the one time he used it, it still failed, but I felt it wasn't a poor idea.

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LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
Not really a lord of anything
#42531: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:43:21 PM

The beam spam that Frieza used against Piccolo doesn't count?

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#42533: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:52:18 PM

....Oh right. Forgot about Frieza.

Well, those are different. I always thought that Frieza's finger blasts were more effective due to being smaller, probably faster, and harder to dodge (though Frieza's raw power might have helped on that front).

I mean, Piccolo invented the Special Beam Canon / Makankosappo, which also focuses all the power on the fingers, but charges like a Kamehameha. Freiza's attack was just a quicker version done rapid fire style.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#42534: Aug 6th 2016 at 9:54:21 PM

What about the beam spam Goku used on Cell that pushed him to use a massive barrier, prompting Goku to forfeit?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#42535: Aug 6th 2016 at 10:09:15 PM

Or the beam spam Vegeta used on Zarbon to weaken him enough that he could kill him?

The rapid fire ki attacks aren't used much in the manga, but when they are their effectiveness is a mixed bag like any other Ki attack.

It's filler and padding hat makes such liberal use for them since it's both cheap to animate and easy to stretch out episode time. But obviously the filler/padding versions can't have any impact on the fight or it would deviate from the manga.

Thus, due to the anime's overuse, they look like a really ineffective technique.

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#42536: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:07:14 PM

Well, Beam Spams is what killed Gohan in History of Trunks.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#42537: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:10:50 PM

The beam spam that never works is always constantly used by the weaker characters anyway...so it never even mattered.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42538: Aug 6th 2016 at 11:55:32 PM

So, when we getting Ultra Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks and Super Saiyan Rose Black for videogames?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#42539: Aug 7th 2016 at 12:40:53 AM

Super Saiyan Rose Black

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#42540: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:15:34 AM

So...was that a Super Saiyan 2 Grade 3 that was used by Trunks?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42541: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:22:46 AM

[up] Yep, still don't know how his hair enlongated like that, though...

[up][up] Since the next episode's title matches with the leaks, Super Saiyan Rose will be the confirmed name for Black's transformation.

Also, no episode next week because of Rio 2016.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#42542: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:31:00 AM

It elongated like that for the original Grade 3 though.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42543: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:37:38 AM

True, but his hair was already long at the time.

Maybe Ultra has hair-lengthening abilities just like SSJ3. tongue

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#42544: Aug 7th 2016 at 1:38:40 AM

His hair was in the same SS style he has though.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42545: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:10:14 AM

More playable characters in Fusions:

edited 7th Aug '16 2:10:23 AM by Rinsankajugin

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#42546: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:11:35 AM

...why are the Ginyu Force women now?

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#42547: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:16:01 AM

Why is Female Guldo not short and fat?

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42548: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:16:24 AM

Because video games.

When you have an RPG about messing up the timeline and multiverse of Dragon Ball, you go full ham on playable what-if characters.

edited 7th Aug '16 2:16:36 AM by Rinsankajugin

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42549: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:19:48 AM

Those are da lame ones, coulda been left out...but dey decided to keep da designs anyway.

Gurda looks like she should be lead Ginyette forcer.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42550: Aug 7th 2016 at 2:22:06 AM

Yeah, Bamu also seems considerably older and taller than the rest of the force.

I wonder if she really is the leader...


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