Everyone would be dead if he showed up.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Is it impossible though? Okay, assuming that Wrath of the Dragon is canon (I personally consider any movie that doesn't conflict with the timeline to be so but whatever) and with what we know of Super with Dabura and Babidi arriving much later than the prime timeline, there's nothing preventing Hoi from figuring out how to bust Hirudegarn and Tapion out of the box and Hirudegarn gets sealed immediately after being released, causing a hardened Trunks to kill Tapion and keep the sword. With the Androids taking their sweet time with the destruction, it's not outside of the realm of possibility for this to happen (of course, they'd need to have figured out some other way to open the music box but there could conceivably be another way for it to happen and there is the problem of Hirudegarn being way more powerful than the Androids). Is it likely? No. But not impossible.
Of course, there's always my personal favorite theory of the sword being a Juju and there was only ever one version of it that wound up in different timelines through various means (e.g. Trunks loses it on a time patrol and gets picked up by a passing alien who loses it on Tapion's planet etc.)
edited 6th Aug '16 3:47:04 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.It is literally impossible. By the time Tapion would have arrived, the strongest beings on Earth would be Gohan and the androids.
You would notice that I did not say Super Saiyan 3 Goku. The only person strong enough to kill Hirudegarn.
My various fanfics.Wrath of the Dragon could've happened...it doesn't contradict anything.
But the reason it'd still be impossible is because even if they kill Tapion, the other half of Hirudegarn is still free...and nobody could stop it.
edited 6th Aug '16 3:53:32 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I had forgotten about the two halves. Fair enough, I concede your point.
I still say that there's only one sword across all timelines though simply because it would be interesting.
As for the movies, a few of them have very minor contradictions that can be easily explained or ignored. For example, I consider Cooler's Revenge to be canon as the only conflicts are with Gohan's tail (ignore) and Goku's inability to go Super Saiyan until angry (explained as underestimating the threat until too late).
edited 6th Aug '16 4:07:49 PM by LordVatek
This song needs more love.Actually the only conflict about Bojack is that he's never mentioned, and considering his threat didn't even last a day, that's not a shock.
One Strip! One Strip!Pretty sure everybody else thought he was just part of the show too, come to think of it.
Poor guy died in total obscurity. Did anybody on Earth know or care he existed? Like literally all he did was kill four joe-schmoes for no specific reason and send his gangmates to harass Gohan and co.
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!Bojack's pretty easy to fit into the timeline and there's very little in the way of conflict thanks to the fact that he only lasted a couple of hours and really wasn't a threat to SSJ 2 Gohan, at a time when Gohan could still transform into SSJ 2 at will (provided he believed he could do it).
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariThere isn't any conflict in the Wrath of the Dragon movie though, if you view it as a halfway mark between Z and GT; it takes place after the Buu Saga, explains why this version of Trunks has a sword in the GT stuff (there's really no reason to think that this is also how Future Trunks got his sword), explains where the Dragon Fist comes from, and foreshadows how powerful Goku eventually becomes in GT, since we have him beating a foe as a Super Saiyan 3 that Ultimate Gohan couldn't beat.
edited 6th Aug '16 4:28:09 PM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!There's a difference between having conflicts just straight not being able to fit into the timeline at all. Goku and Gohan not being in perma-Super Saiyan and the absence of the threat of Cell in Broly is a conflict. Goku, Trunks, and Vegeta all being able to turn Super Saiyan and being present in Android 13 is not being able to fit at all.
Basically, I think that the events of certain movies happened in canon but the specific circumstances were different.
This song needs more love.Wratch Of The Dragon is not in continuity as of now and I prefer it remain that way, but the power levels aren't really an issue. Hirudegarn's only powerful if people are afraid of it. The problem in the movie was that they were fighting it in a city full of scared people. In Trunks's time there would be no cities full of people because the Androids killed them all. Less people means less fear, so Hirudegarn would have been much weaker.
Still, the only movies I want in continuity are Yo! Son Goku And His Friends Return, Battle Of Gods and Revival Of F...maybe Bardock's first movie too, but only his first one. It's a toss up whether I think it or Dragon Ball Minus is better/worse. And of movies that shouldn't be in continuity include Future Trunks's TV Special. Gohan had both of his arms when 17 killed him and 17 killed him easily with no help from 18. That's how it was supposed to go. And Trunks killed Cell with a physical attack. Finish buster is an attack that makes contact, dammit!
Buldogue's lawyerWhat the hell are you talking about, none of what you said about the Trunks Special actually happened; Gohan lost his arm in both the special and the manga, and Trunks kills Cell the exact same way in both the anime and manga. Hell, the special ends with Trunks going on his first trip to the past. Seriously, leave the dumb headcanons to Pushover. >.>
edited 6th Aug '16 4:48:55 PM by Ssj3Gojira
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!Honestly, the differences between History of Trunks' and the manga special that showed Trunks' history are relatively minor. The only major contradiction (and it's not really major) is when Trunks first went Super Saiyan.
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Oh yes it is! Putting too much stock in a Toei flashback is just laughable.
Even Super's canoncity is debateable, due to it being in a positio that is completely unique to the franchise.
Oh yeah. There's also that niggling issue of there being no consistent deginition of canon to begin with.
@IANCE I would say that line is a pretty serious conflict myself.
Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but in the manga, Gohan goes to fight 17 one on one and is killed easily. In the special, Gohan beats 17's ass until 18 steps in and ends up losing his arm saving Trunks. He still beats 17's behind with one arm until 18 comes to help kill him.
So maybe I'm remembering Cell wrong, I remember the manga version of the android deaths being more dramatic than the blast blast blast dead way I saw animated but I definitely remember Gohan's death being much more swift and anticlimactic. Animated Gohan was dominating 17 even with one arm while manga 17 was taunting Gohan about having no chance, which he didn't.
Buldogue's lawyerGoku being that powerful in Wrath wouldn't foreshadow a damn thing, because that in itself has no explanation.
Though it is possible to explain that without just having Goku be that strong. He was getting tossed around by Hirudegarn as well, until Trunks cut off his tail with the magic sword. Not only did cutting him in half weaken him before, but it was also shown earlier in the movie that he used the tail to absorb people. No tail, lost the power he had absorbed over the years.
I doubt this was the movie's intent, but it's a workable headcanon.
Gohan hears his father talking to him while he's just got the hell knocked out of him, and was mostly half dazed. And Goku disappears mere seconds afterwards. It's entirely possible that after it's over he just thinks maybe he imagined the whole thing. Yes he says he heard Goku's voice to his friends, but he could easily write that off as I knew what I needed to do, and I pictured my dad telling me in order to finally get rolling.
But I know we won't agree on this, so we'll leave it at that. Hell, that's a single scene in the whole movie, so I it can be easily ignored. I still say the movie fits more or less.
One Strip! One Strip!Goku wasn't that strong in the movie. He was the one who discovered and exploited Hirudegarn's weakness. He purposefully let himself get beat up while doing his best to hold his ground while taunting the monster. This made everyone watching the fight, including the weakling Earthling civilians, less afraid. As the fear level dropped, Hirudegarn got weaker and Goku punched it with everything he had, the same punch he used to beat Daimo Piccolo. None of that really requires being stronger than Gotenks or Gohan, just better at thinking on the fly and a little luckier in that Trunks had cut off the monster's tail with a sword blessed to do just that.
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That's completely impossible though.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari