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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#4176: Dec 22nd 2013 at 3:50:04 PM

[up] Let's just agree that Saiyans basically make shitty parents by not trying to get to know their kids when they are born and carelessly allow them to be raised by people they don't know, and (to me) the only decent parents of this show are Krillin and Android 18, Bulma, and Chi-Chi (Buu Saga only), and Gohan and Videl (at the end of DBZ only, not GT).

Goku and Buu Saga Vegeta aren't bad parents, but they aren't Parents of the Year either because they at least try.

edited 22nd Dec '13 3:51:42 PM by MsCC93

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#4177: Dec 22nd 2013 at 3:53:24 PM

I wonder if we can blame Dr. and Mrs. Briefs for how Bulma turned out.

Think King Cold might take the trophy for Worst Parent though.

edited 22nd Dec '13 3:53:55 PM by Nikkolas

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#4178: Dec 22nd 2013 at 3:56:27 PM

Was Frieza created from shitty parenting, though, or from the cultural makeup of Androgyn-alien society?

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sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4179: Dec 22nd 2013 at 3:59:46 PM

King Cold = much better father than Goku.

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#4180: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:00:43 PM

[up][up][up] Definitely. HE was extremely abusive towards Frieza. Goku was pretty neglectful, but at least he was a good father to his boys when he was around. King Cold doesn't even try.

[up][up] They aren't humans, so Frieza must have been created another way.

[up] I disagree. King Cold was a very shitty father compared to Goku.

edited 22nd Dec '13 4:02:02 PM by MsCC93

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#4181: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:00:46 PM

Well, let's not go that far.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4182: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:03:56 PM

Eh, there's no reason to think he was abusive at all. We've only got one line that Freeza's parents were able to damage him (literally: 'inflict dust upon') in his final form, but that could refer to training or Freeza fighting them for control of the empire or just about anything. Not necessarily abuse.

That said, he's a shitty father because he immediately tried to adopt Trunks because Trunks was better than Freeza. All he cares about is strength.

edited 22nd Dec '13 4:04:25 PM by Saiga

Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#4183: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:05:39 PM

That's why i dubbed him Worst Father Ever. At least Vegeta had the goodness to be upset when his son was killed right before his eyes.

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4184: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:06:21 PM

[up][up][up][up] We have no evidence King Cold was abusive to Freeza. Just that he had the capability to "get dust on" Freeza. We see that Freeza respects his father, and is the only person he seems to genuinely care for, so I doubt that Freeza hated him, especially since he was stronger than Cold. If Cold had abused him, Freeza wouldn't let him walk away from it.

Also King Cold revived Freeza and planned to help him against the guy who hurt him. Goku sent his son alone to fight Cell, and even aided Cell (gave him a senzu) and smiled as Cell beat the shit out of his son. Then later he sent his sons against Majin Buu after playing around with Buu under the impression that he already killed his other son. Also, unlike Goku, we never saw King Cold hit his son.

King Cold = much better father than Goku.

edited 22nd Dec '13 4:07:19 PM by sockpuppet1

marston Since: Sep, 2011
#4185: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:06:48 PM

Thanks for the responses on my question about Dragon Ball Z Kai. I'll be sure to check it out once I get the opportunity.

@No Name Given: Well if it makes you feel any better, Cooler is probably my favorite DBZ Filler Villain. Mainly because he had a badass design and he was also pretty Dangerously Genre-Savvy compared to his brother {At least in his first movie, anyway}.

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#4186: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:11:30 PM

I think the Ox King should be mentioned. While he is not a bad father, he has his flaws. He lets his 12 year old daughter dress in a bikini, and yet acts too overprotective of her sometimes. At worst, he's an Overprotective Dad, but he's not the worst father.

He's still a better father than King Cold.grin

@Nokkolas: Agreed. He's the worst father in Dragonball Z history. Also agreeing with Saiga.

edited 22nd Dec '13 4:11:54 PM by MsCC93

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4187: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:13:32 PM

He also sent his bikini-dressed daughter to Master Roshi. Wonder what he was planning there, huh.

sockpuppet1 Since: Apr, 2013 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#4188: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:14:07 PM

Cell is also okay. He was broken up when Gohan killed all of the Juniors and immediately went to attack Gohan. Contrast Goku, who after seeing Fat Buu kill Gohan played around with him then sent him his other son to kill.

Cell = much better father than Goku.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4189: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:18:05 PM

Ugh, please just stop. It might still be amusing to you, but that joke is deader than Yamcha.

MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#4190: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:18:49 PM

[up] Not to mention, Roshi is a pedophile. He constantly fondled a 16 year old Bulma. Who in their right mind lets their daughter go to Roshi of all people??

Ox King and Goku = STILL better than King Cold.

I've already mentioned it, and I'll say it again. Goku was a great father in Saiyan - Frieza Saga. It was only in the later episodes when he started slipping.

edited 22nd Dec '13 4:19:57 PM by MsCC93

CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#4191: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:22:23 PM

Ephebophile. 16 is legal in many countries. You can marry a 16 year old woman in Poland.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
CaptainKatsura Decoy from    Poland    Since: Jul, 2011
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#4193: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:33:28 PM

So that's intercontinental trend for sure grin

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#4194: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:57:30 PM

The Age of Consent is also mostly 16 in the US. Most people just think the national age of consent is 18 because most of America's entertainment is made in california.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4195: Dec 22nd 2013 at 4:58:34 PM

That's really interesting, I never knew different US states had different age of consent laws.

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#4196: Dec 22nd 2013 at 5:00:21 PM

Most are 16, some are 17, and some are 18 (particularly the places most people know about when they aren't from the US, like Washington DC and California).

edited 22nd Dec '13 5:00:33 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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NoNameGiven from Nowhere Since: Jul, 2013
#4197: Dec 22nd 2013 at 5:07:59 PM

The law of consent in Japan is 13, I believe, correct me if I'm wrong.

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Nikkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#4198: Dec 22nd 2013 at 5:18:46 PM

If I am remembering right, different areas of Japan have different Ao C's, just like the US and its states.

The youngest I've heard of was 14 though.

edited 22nd Dec '13 5:19:16 PM by Nikkolas

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#4199: Dec 22nd 2013 at 6:13:13 PM

He lets his 12 year old daughter dress in a bikini, and yet acts too overprotective of her sometimes.

He also sent his bikini-dressed daughter to Master Roshi. Wonder what he was planning there, huh.

Correction: He sent his bikini Clad daughter to Master Roshi while wearing a Helmet with a Boomerang Blade and a Jewel that shoots a Laser beam installed in it.

....I think he not only knew who he was sending his daughter to, he made sure to prepare her.

....Ox King might be the best dad ever.cool

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#4200: Dec 22nd 2013 at 6:19:28 PM

That makes no sense. He could have just not put her into a bikini.

Or not sent her unsupervised.


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