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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41576: Jul 10th 2016 at 10:59:37 AM

Except he's not a loser, he's still the third strongest among all of them.

The anime seems to disagree with you there.

Gohan fights Beerus.

Gotenks fights Beerus, and we know he's weaker than Gohan.

Vegeta fights Beerus.

Homeless Vegeta Episode

Super's done so much filler already with Goku having ki exhaustion, Vegeta spending time with his family, Piccolo and Chi-Chi taking care of Pan, and Mr. Satan performing in front of a crowd. I want an episode where Bulma finally gets fed up with Vegeta and throws him out, forcing Vegeta to be a pedestrian for twenty-four hours, go training, do push-ups on the sidewalk, do something amusingly out of character in order to get Bulma's forgiveness.

Goku and Vegeta are incredibly whipped, it could happen.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41577: Jul 10th 2016 at 11:01:36 AM

So I guess Korin should have spread that secret around then.

As for Future Pilaf and Future Shuu, somebody got them obviously. If not Black, then the Androids. I'm just curious to how Mai avoided their fate for so long? Those three are always together.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#41578: Jul 10th 2016 at 12:36:01 PM

Man, Future Trunks came just a tiny bit creepy this episode. Pedo Trunks.

They should have know better than to send army against Black. Everyone knows armies are worthless and only exist to get destroyed by bad guys.

So, Black just really, really hate humanity and considers them a mistake of the gods. Huh.

Next episode, a road-trip to the tenth universe.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#41579: Jul 10th 2016 at 12:38:19 PM

He was actually referring to the DB version of "human", which is apparently any humanoid race in the universe; Frieza would technically be considered "human" because of that.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#41580: Jul 10th 2016 at 12:45:48 PM

Age 852... Welcome to Conton City. (low quality)

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#41581: Jul 10th 2016 at 12:49:18 PM

Xenoverse 2 looks like it's fixed quite a few of the complaints with the first one, but the biggest complaint I've seen, the over reliance on RNG for Fake Longevity... that remains to be seen.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#41582: Jul 10th 2016 at 12:53:14 PM

...we can do the bingo dance now; truly, our lives are complete now.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41583: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:10:35 PM

Blooma's mother? Her eyes were open, she's...

Apparently she developed a sense of awareness.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#41584: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:20:14 PM

If Goku Black is from Universe 10, does that hold true for Trunks as well?

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
#41585: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:21:54 PM

[up]No, alternate timelines aren't different universes. Future Trunks lived in Universe 7 but in a different timeline from our heroes.

edited 10th Jul '16 1:26:42 PM by LordofLore

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41586: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:24:34 PM

How and why would Goku Black leave Universe 10 to go to an alternate future of Universe 7, which contains Beerus?

...well granted, Trunks's timeline actually is the original Universe 7, so that might make some kind of sense.

Once again, Trunks's hair comes into question.

edited 10th Jul '16 1:33:04 PM by Soble

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41587: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:30:40 PM

Black is pretty mysterious yeah.

So he's not just speaking of humans in the sense of Earthlings, but of all mortal races then? Well, he did say he destroyed other planets as well, and they can't all have humans on them, so that makes sense.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#41588: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:45:23 PM

"Man, Future Trunks came just a tiny bit creepy this episode. Pedo Trunks. They should have know better than to send army against Black. Everyone knows armies are worthless and only exist to get destroyed by bad guys. So, Black just really, really hate humanity and considers them a mistake of the gods. Huh. Next episode, a road-trip to the tenth universe."

Well they had to do something. The only other option is roll over and die. And Black Goku hates all mortals.

Also, in the Japanese text of Dragon Ball, human is any species not a god. Throughout the Buu Saga, the Supreme Kai and Kibito kept calling the Saiyans humans for example. Even in Super, Champa called the tournament a battle between humans.

So basically, human = mortal.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#41589: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:54:18 PM

Great. It's always about killing all Mortals.

Well, we know it's got something to do with this Universe 10 dude. I suppose we'll know soon enough.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#41590: Jul 10th 2016 at 1:58:08 PM

So Black is basically the bad guy from Final Fantasy IV?

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#41591: Jul 10th 2016 at 2:04:17 PM

No? That doesn't sound the like the Zemus/Zeromus I'm familiar with.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#41592: Jul 10th 2016 at 2:07:10 PM

I thought he wanted to kill all humans because he considers them inferior.

edited 10th Jul '16 2:07:26 PM by Hobgoblin

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#41593: Jul 10th 2016 at 2:22:11 PM

Yeah but then he wants his space humans to move in to the now vacated Earth.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41594: Jul 10th 2016 at 2:24:30 PM

Is only redundant if they look exactly the same, do they look the same?

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#41595: Jul 10th 2016 at 3:30:41 PM

Saiyans look the same as humans, but are distinctly not. They need to function the same to be redundant too.

I mean, I can replace my beat up PC with one that looks exactly the same but performs significantly better, and that wouldn't be redundant, now would it?

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#41596: Jul 10th 2016 at 3:37:52 PM

I think there's a translation issue with all this "mortals = humans" stuff.

The Japanese word being used, "ningen", can mean human being, but it can also mean "person" in general.

I'm willing to bet the latter translation is closer in this case.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41597: Jul 10th 2016 at 3:41:56 PM

[up][up]This would be more like...breaking someone else' old PC and replacing it with new one that you only "think" is better, but in the end it really isn't...and just wasted everyone's time.

edited 10th Jul '16 3:43:01 PM by randomness4

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#41598: Jul 10th 2016 at 3:48:45 PM

It could be like that, but that's only provided that the thing you replace it with isn't better.

And let's face it: There's lots of things that could replace humans in the Dragon Ball universe and be universally better. Like Namekians, who are uberstrong compared to the average human, can all fly, don't need to eat, are pacifistic in nature and all that stuff.

Or, if you want to go in the other direction, you can replace them all with Saiyans, or members of Freeza's race, or even Buu's clone children.

My point is, humans were already good, but then they got Potential Unlocked and became OP and that was just a giant load of bullcrap.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#41599: Jul 10th 2016 at 3:51:50 PM

Not really, look at the humans in Gurren Lagann; Simon could probably kick Goku's ass.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41600: Jul 10th 2016 at 3:55:32 PM

[up][up][up][up]I think that's fairly common in Japanese media with different non-human "races".

edited 10th Jul '16 3:55:51 PM by LSBK


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