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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#41376: Jul 4th 2016 at 4:30:29 AM

They really, really don't.

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#41377: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:20:44 AM

GFW invades the Dragon World, Christina Von Eerie confirmed!

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#41378: Jul 4th 2016 at 8:35:24 AM

Ya know, Super Saiyan Blue's naming is literally a repeat of Super Saiyan 2's.

Before it was dubbed Super Saiyan 2, it was referred to as "Super Saiyan beyond Super Saiyan" just liek "Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan" until Toriyama was like "tl;dr" and changed it to Super Saiyan 2 lol.

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#41379: Jul 4th 2016 at 10:35:25 AM

The fact that they were named the same thing and then shortened to two names that rhyme is kind of funny.

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#41380: Jul 4th 2016 at 12:43:50 PM

It's consistent in that it's Goku who shortens beyond super sayain to SS2 and Goku who complains about Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan being too long, even if Whis comes up with Super Saiyan Blue...and I don't actually watch the show, so am I wrong in thinking Super Saiyan Blue is a manga exclusive term? I personally don't like it because it's so non descriptive. Blue hair, blue aura but that doesn't really indicate its importance in the scheme of things.

Then again, what it is doesn't seem too consistent between the movies/show and the manga. In the movie, super saiyan god starts out blue before shattering and leaving behind a trail of red. When Goku takes it on in the second movie, the trail stays blue and Goku says something to the effect of he encountered super saiyan god and taps back into it with the regular super sayain form. Their anchored, linked, mixed, so to speak, although the full description would take too long for Freezer.

In the manga, super sayain god is something Goku can take on at anytime but it doesn't last long until he masters it. After mastering it he can go super saiyan in addition to it, which makes it an addition, or a mix, so to speak.

So Dragon Ball runs on puns, blue and two were apparently too good to pass up, but something like super saiyan mix or super super saiyan plus god SS+G/SSG+ would be more to my liking. Both would fit both the show and the manga's depiction I think and we'd only lose one pun.

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#41383: Jul 4th 2016 at 2:50:13 PM

In the anime, Super Saiyan Blue was never called Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. In fact, it was nameless in both the movie and Super, until the Champa Saga when Vegeta called it Super Saiyan Blue.

I personally don't like the name because it reminds me of Pepsi Blue, which is why I still called it Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. It's long winded, but it actually tells you want the form is. It's Super Saiyan God merged with a Super Saiyan.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41384: Jul 4th 2016 at 2:56:48 PM

It's redundant is what it is and it doesn't tell you what the form is...without context the name just sounds ridiculous.

Wouldn't pepsi cans in general remind you of pepsi blue...or any name that ends with blue?

edited 4th Jul '16 2:58:31 PM by randomness4

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41385: Jul 4th 2016 at 3:46:50 PM

Super Sandwich God Super Sandwich.

Super Sandwich Blue.

Admittedly, the first one sounds more appetizing and doesn't make me think of food poisoning.

Did they ever say long it's been since Trunks returned and killed the Androids and Cell? In that time, Trunks and Bulma never built a spaceship to go to Namek and fix everything? Bulma built a time machine on a post-aporcalyptic earth, but a spaceship was difficult?

edited 4th Jul '16 3:48:04 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41386: Jul 4th 2016 at 3:50:10 PM

They don't know where "new" Namek is, so building a ship would be a waste of time.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41387: Jul 4th 2016 at 3:51:20 PM

And this is considering her dad built a spaceship already (and should still have the notes).

He also built a second one, even if it never got used (except for when Vegeta left and came back.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#41388: Jul 4th 2016 at 3:55:45 PM

They managed to find it the first time?

Go back in time and ask their past selves

How did Dr. Briefs find it the first time? (He had the coordinates from Kami's ship) Granted neither ship made it back to Earth, but shouldn't they have a record of those coordinates?

Present Bulma managed to reach Whis on interdimensional Twitter with a picture of an ice cream sundae, shouldn't King Kai be able to help navigate? Probably the most sensible option would be to use King Kai to get in touch with Jaco, who I'd think would be able to get Bulma to New Namek.

edited 4th Jul '16 4:00:20 PM by Soble

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41389: Jul 4th 2016 at 4:04:02 PM

They found "old" Namek because Kami's ship had the coordinates set for whenever he was ready to go back and Dr. Brief input those coordinates into the ship for Carrot.

"New" Namek is for some reason not in the same place and they cannot find it.

edited 4th Jul '16 4:04:57 PM by randomness4

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41390: Jul 4th 2016 at 4:11:45 PM

Even considering that Jaco has been retconned into the history of the series, and didn't exist back when they were doing these things, I always wondered why no-one tried to get in contact with King Kai and ask for his help.

I can only assume that Goku is the only one who can contact him on his own (every other instance of King Kai talking to others is him contacting them) which is another reason why people in this series need to start actually fucking teaching each other techniques instead of just learning on their own.

If there were others who could use instant transmission, it might come in handy. Not for fighting mind you, but other things.

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#41391: Jul 4th 2016 at 4:13:44 PM

I thought New Namek was put somewhere else to prevent others from finding them and using the Dragon Balls again.

Sorbet did mention they couldn't use Namek's Dragon Balls to resurrect Frieza because they couldn't find the Namekians, so it was working; imagine if they had though and resurrected Frieza early, then they would have had to deal with Gold Frieza before Beerus showed up. Frieza was motivated into training when he heard about Goku defeating Majin Buu, so he wasn't aware of any of the events of Battle of Gods.

edited 4th Jul '16 4:14:42 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41392: Jul 4th 2016 at 4:15:48 PM

[up][up]He never contacts the Kai King, he always just transmissions there...no one else could do that, especially not in bad future. Carrot died before anything happened, so he couldn't teach it even if he wanted to.

[up]I don't remember them giving a reason, but they did just wish for a new planet...not actually restoring the old one.

edited 4th Jul '16 4:17:54 PM by randomness4

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41393: Jul 4th 2016 at 4:24:54 PM

Actually, Goku did contact King Kai once; right after the battle with Vegeta when they are all wondering how to wish everyone back, Goku asks King Kai to help them, and he communicates with everyone.

Though in that case, I think King Kai was listening in (he was watching the entire battle it seems).

Doesn't Roshi have Psychic Powers? He flat out read Nam's mind once.

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#41394: Jul 4th 2016 at 6:43:00 PM

Yeah, the Namekians made New Namek hard to find to avoid the events of the Freeza saga repeating itself.

And it worked, since Freeza's remaining forces were never able to locate it.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#41395: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:14:39 PM

How do you make a planet hard to find?

It's not very hard to do. Just move it out of the way. Unless they have all of the galaxy chartered, they're going to have a very hard time to find you anyway.

Plus, it's not like you can actively hide the planet.

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#41396: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:36:48 PM

"I wish intergalactic pricks couldn't find our planet."

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41397: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:38:22 PM

Maybe they used the wish to make it so that hostile outside forces can't find the planet unless it's in a movie. Which still leaves room for the completely non hostile Goku to find it via Instant transmission.

.....We really need a full trope page for the return of Cooler.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41398: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:48:54 PM

Only if he has the King Kai locate it for him.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#41399: Jul 4th 2016 at 7:51:29 PM

Well, King Kai is also non hostile.

Anyway, I can only assume it must be something that can't be detected the way the Planet Trade or other invaders normally would, but is still susceptible to King Kai's method of tracking (and Goku once King Kai shows him the way).

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#41400: Jul 4th 2016 at 9:09:51 PM

Well, before Resurrection F... there was literally nothing in the Planet Trade that the Namekians couldn't handle, even the non-warrior kinds. I mean, 3 Namekians butchered a group of Freeza's soldiers with barely any effort.

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