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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40626: Jun 19th 2016 at 7:57:20 AM

... If you're gonna go that far, might as well call her Buruma.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#40627: Jun 19th 2016 at 8:52:42 AM

Why not go back farther still and call her ブルマ?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#40628: Jun 19th 2016 at 9:35:45 AM

Or just Bloomers. Either way, Blooma is better than Bulma.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#40629: Jun 19th 2016 at 9:54:45 AM

Kid Trunks is totally on an episode of Jerry Springer.

First the illegitimate brother with his name who his mother and father have been keeping from him. Then a fight breaks out between his illegitimate brother and his honorary Uncle. Next, he'll probably find out that the girl he has a crush on is actually one of his mother's old nemeses from thirty years ago. At which point someone will probably throw a chair.

Which would make Pilaf, Shu and Mai the audience the keeps shouting out the exact wrong thing to keep the drama going. At least, until they get involved themselves.

On an unrelated note, it's pretty funny how Pilaf, Shu and Mai spend their time hanging out with Trunks when they're not scheming to cause the downfall of Son Goku. It's like some kind of incompetent supervillain equivalent to Wake Up, Go to School, Save the World.

edited 19th Jun '16 10:26:39 AM by KnownUnknown

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Ghost '11
#40630: Jun 19th 2016 at 10:14:10 AM

[up][up]('-'): Just like Bulla is better than Bra...?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#40631: Jun 19th 2016 at 11:04:24 AM

Super 48:

  • Goku... Black doesn't seem to regard himself as a 'Saiyan'. ("You Saiyans sure are interesting.") If he was a potara fusion, he'd be a perfect mix of Goku and whoever else. Maybe he's the result of a bunch of potara fusions fusing with Goku, making those more villainous personalities dominate Goku's?
  • Trunks was actually able to hit Goku. But he also didn't transform into a higher form. Once again, this being "the same Future Trunks" is thrown into question.
  • Ugh. "I'm an evil doppelganger, so all of my energy attacks need to have a dark color scheme."
  • So Evil Goku can't sense energy? He didn't know where Trunks went after a simple dust-up? And evidently he's not all that strong, Trunks is just feeble.
    • I'm thinking he really is an android.
      • Well there was that weird purple aura. ("He completely disappeared") Now that's frightening. Not only can he sense energy, but what if he has IT?
  • Since when did the time machine have a 'one-way' fuel? I'm still baffled by Trunks using it, going to the past, going back to his future, going back to the same past, coming back with the android blueprints, Cell going back to the same past, and then another Trunks heading back to the same past. None of these trips implied he could 'run out' of fuel. The only apparent limitation was that Cell couldn't fit inside the cockpit.
    • Did Bulma scrap the old time machine? Or did the Supreme Kai of Time interfere?
      • Nope, its the same "Hope" machine. I guess Bulma just had better resources in the future the Androids destroyed versus the future Evil Goku destroyed.
    • Time Patrol health insurance is garbage.
  • The Mai Trunks shipping is strong with this one.
  • Dragonball eating scenes always make me hungry.
  • Oh wow, Trunks is the first to find his future self who... doesn't even share the same hair color. Okay, one of them is dying their hair.
  • Blue Trunks and Purple Trunks. It's like a fan fiction come true.
  • I like how the transition screencaps are actually different now. Seeing Gohan crawl under Goku's arm, and Gohan driving with Videl got old after awhile.
  • Bulma has some brass ones alright.
  • Really should have told Kid Trunks about that future.
  • I'm actually like Pilaf's gang being around.
  • Why not just have Whis teleport them back to Earth?
  • I love how Vegeta's family advances the plot while Goku's family doesn't or just isn't around. Bulma shows up and starts the hunt for the dragon balls. Vegeta shows up and gets the gang headed to Namek. Trunks shows up and warns everyone about the future. Kid Trunks was the one who opted to transform against Buu while Gohan was fighting - bad decision, but Gohan would've ended the fight otherwise.
  • What? Why is Trunks waking up slowly? Senzu Beans heal you instantly. Goku broke out of his cast the moment he ate one.
  • Goku vs Trunks rematch. Hah, even Beerus and Whis look shocked.

edited 19th Jun '16 11:08:11 AM by Soble

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#40633: Jun 19th 2016 at 11:29:05 AM

Bulla is awful. Should have just called her Bru. And you know what, I do like Blooma, more than Buruma. Blooma and Bru.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#40634: Jun 19th 2016 at 12:45:01 PM

So wait, does this means no one ever told Kid Trunks about the events of Android saga? Or he just didn't connect the dots?

Also, Pilaf gang just living with the Breifs is hilarious.

DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#40635: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:09:45 PM

Well, Kid Trunks is kinda young, maybe they were planning on telling him when he was older?

Also, damn does Black know how to be intimidating. I know some people are complaining about his whole general "black/dark/evil" thing going on, but honestly, that black aura looks pretty cool IMO.

"Since when did the time machine have a 'one-way' fuel? I'm still baffled by Trunks using it, going to the past, going back to his future, going back to the same past, coming back with the android blueprints, Cell going back to the same past, and then another Trunks heading back to the same past."

I'm guessing that Android-saga Future Bulma made a surplus of fuel, and Trunks carried a spare canister in the time machine to ensure he could get back afterward. They never thought they'd need the machine again, so this fuel was all they were able to manufacture in a hurry when Black showed up.

And, unless this was something the English dub made up, I think I recall him mentioning fuel limitations in the Android saga. The heroes ask if, once he knows where Gero's lab is, couldn't he just go back in time again and blow it up before the Androids ever get made, and Trunks replies that he could, but he'd be stranded with no more fuel (not to mention it wouldn't affect their timeline anyway).

edited 19th Jun '16 1:41:59 PM by DarkHunter

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40636: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:16:29 PM

I'm guessing it'd be kinda hard to find enriched uranium in a world that doesn't seem to have developed nuclear power.

Wait, was it uranium or plutonium?

All I remember is "This sucker is nuclear!?"

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#40637: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:28:04 PM

The not finding the lab thing was an excuse, the real reason he went back in time was to see if Goku could find a way to defeat the androids...but yes, not having enough fuel/energy for multiple trips was an issue. It only seems appropriate that now that really is the issue, rather than an excuse, now that I think of it. Laser-Guided Karma, if you will. It's just too bad the general populace is paying for Trunks and Bulma Blooma's deception.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40638: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:33:54 PM

Heh. Trunks may be awake, but he's not quite all there yet.

That being said, it won't take long for him to realize where he is, and who's really in front of him. Black and Goku share a face and voice. Nothing else. He spent enough time with the real thing that he'll recognize it once he gets his head straight.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40639: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:51:57 PM

Then again, he probably thinks present Goku is still dead.

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#40640: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:53:24 PM

It's the same Future Trunks. I'm assuming the fuel is one way since he doesn't have enough to get back. He might have Bulma make some.

Oh man, what if Trunks sticks around for Zeno's tournament?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#40641: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:55:23 PM

Not sure if Future Trunks having blue hair and Kid Trunks having purple is neat, or just more reason to question what's real.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40642: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:57:16 PM

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Oh shit! You're right. Last time he was there, Goku had died anyway, so of course he'd flip his shit when the dude he knows is supposed to be dead is standing in front of him...again.

I'd totally forgotten that he missed that party. In fact, this Trunks has missed a lot:

Buu, Beerus, the return of Frieza, AND the Universe 6 vs 7 Tournament.

All things that could still happen in his world one day, but likely won't.

Anyway, I hope we'll get a full answer to who and what exactly Black is.

edited 19th Jun '16 1:57:46 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#40643: Jun 19th 2016 at 1:57:21 PM

I'm beginning to wonder if the hair color change is just to make it easier to differentiate them.

Not that we'd really have any trouble telling a Future Badass apart from his Bratty Half-Pint equivalent, but TV execs are always overestimating the stupidity of their viewers.

edited 19th Jun '16 1:57:59 PM by DarkHunter

Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#40645: Jun 19th 2016 at 3:17:11 PM

Trunks was actually able to hit Goku. But he also didn't transform into a higher form. Once again, this being "the same Future Trunks" is thrown into question.

I thought it was clear from the way Black Goku was cackling the one time Trunks scored a hit that he let Trunks do it.

So Evil Goku can't sense energy? He didn't know where Trunks went after a simple dust-up?

It was a plot point in the previous episode that Black only just recently learned how to sense Trunks' energy. This episode shows that he evidently has to concentrate in order to do it, rather than it being easy and natural as it is for the protagonists.

Rather than an android, my guess is Humanoid Abomination that just looks like Goku - maybe as a twisted version of A Form You Are Comfortable With.

edited 19th Jun '16 3:19:03 PM by KnownUnknown

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40646: Jun 19th 2016 at 4:49:40 PM

Maybe he's some sort of spirit that took over Goku's body?

[up] Yeah, Black was clearly enjoying himself during all that.

edited 19th Jun '16 4:50:45 PM by Cortez

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40647: Jun 19th 2016 at 4:56:13 PM

I'm still running with Black Goku being the heart virus possessing Goku's physical body after reanimating it.

And no, I don't care how wrong it is, I'm still writing that fanfic in my head.

edited 19th Jun '16 4:56:39 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#40648: Jun 19th 2016 at 5:16:05 PM

Do it!

Let nothing stop you!

Destroy all! Destroy all!

So I just remembered, there was a another Kid Trunks / Mai shipping moment.

Which is a shame, because I STILL FUCKING HATE THAT PAIRING! SHE'S 38 YEARS OLD TORIYAMA! IT'S NOT COOL! STOP! FUCKING STOP IT NOW!!!!! AAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!

So yeah. Stop that shit Toriyama. Fucking seriously. I mean, why? Why that pairing all of a sudden?

Anyway, you all know how I can get, so I give you guys permission to put a sack over my head, and drag me away if I get too...Passionate about my feelings on the matter.

edited 19th Jun '16 5:25:04 PM by HandsomeRob

One Strip! One Strip!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#40649: Jun 19th 2016 at 5:27:12 PM

Rob, take a deep breath, put on some Slayer and slaughter some mooks or something.

It'll do wonders for your temper, so you can refine your rage into controlled bursts of unstoppable violence.

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NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#40650: Jun 19th 2016 at 5:32:51 PM

And no, I don't care how wrong it is, I'm still writing that fanfic in my head.

Dragon Ball's done far worse.

It's got sapient dogs, shapeshifting cats and pigs, bugs and wads of pink bubblegum. A sentient, malevolent virus is not that farout in such a context.


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