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TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#40401: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:26:28 AM

Four months sparring with Tagoma in a black hole. Obviously.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40402: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:35:34 AM

Um...since those two demon assholes (I forgot their names but one of them is Dabura's sister) are involved, I'm assuming they are using magic to buff him up.

I mean, that would make sense right, even if Heroes spits on power levels to a ridiculous degree.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#40403: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:44:39 AM

DBO explained that toxic gases emitted from the mask + Towa's magic made Bardock both evil and stronger than a normal Towa-controlled character.

Now Vegeta has a mask....

edited 16th Jun '16 9:45:15 AM by Rinsankajugin

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#40404: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:47:21 AM

Wait, Bardock is already evil. Why did they need to justify that?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40405: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:48:02 AM

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Exactly. I know we all like to go Power Levels are Bullshit!, but this has a real explanation.

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Edit: I would assume he was made more evil then he was either of his previous media appearances. Hell, in Episode Bardock, he was almost heroic.

edited 16th Jun '16 9:49:04 AM by HandsomeRob

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#40406: Jun 16th 2016 at 9:48:10 AM

And Towa alone nerfed Mr. Hercule Satan down to high Super Saiyan 1 level.

edited 16th Jun '16 10:30:30 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#40407: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:28:05 AM

Boosted?Are you implying things about the champ?

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#40408: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:31:06 AM

Sorry, fixed. It's still extremely impressive for Towa.

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#40409: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:36:43 AM

That's better. Don't make him come out here and go Super Satan on your ass. 'Cause he'll do it just as soon as he gets over this sudden stomach cramp.

  • Yamcha: Y'know, he gets to be consistently pathetic in every appearance and the fans adore him. I get blown up by a Saibaman one time and people act like that's all I ever did on the show.
  • Chiaotzu: That's not true! Remember that time Dr. Gero punched a hole in your chest?
  • Yamcha: Not helping.
  • Chiaotzu: At least people remember you exist. They have keychains of your corpse. When was the last time anyone made a keychain of me?

edited 16th Jun '16 10:39:31 AM by TobiasDrake

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#40410: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:40:05 AM

The Cell Saga was just a heavily censored American version anyway, they removed Hercule from most of the scenes to focus on some blond filler characters.

Another reason I loved the Budokai games.

edited 16th Jun '16 10:40:57 AM by Soble

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#40411: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:43:36 AM

Far as I can tell, there is only one official Chiaotzu keychain and the moment portrayed is exactly the one you'd expect.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#40412: Jun 16th 2016 at 10:47:30 AM

What's with Cell's voice there.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40413: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:05:06 AM

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Ouch.evil grin

It's hard to tell who gets it worse between Chiaoutzu and Yamcha really.

Outside of the Death Pose meme, what does Japan think of Yamcha? I think we've brought it up before, but I can't quite re-call.

I think the reason Satan is so well liked is because Toriyama cares enough about him to give him development beyond just being a fighter. He's shown he can be pretty brave (throwing 16's head to Gohan being one of the first examples), he's legitimately strong by normal standards and has real victories under his belt (unlike poor Yamcha), and has the heart of a hero that overshadows his more selfish moments.

If Toriyama had put that kind of effort into Chiaoutzu and Yamcha, they'd probably be more than ignored character and fandom punching bag respectively.

edited 16th Jun '16 11:05:17 AM by HandsomeRob

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#40414: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:09:31 AM

Correction; there are actually two pieces of official Chiaotzu keychain merchandise: the one I showed, and another one, released years later, that is exactly identical except the energy is orange.

edited 16th Jun '16 11:12:55 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#40415: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:10:52 AM

Mr. Satan gets it so easy because nobody was ever under the assumption that they were supposed to take him seriously in the first place. When he's pathetic, it's not disappointing anyone. That's the heart of his character. He's meant to be pathetic and love him or hate him, everyone's accepted that from the start.

But Yamcha has a devoted fanbase that adores him as a serious combatant. Fans who think he's supposed to be this really awesome, badass fighter and are just disappointed that they never get to see him kick Piccolo's ass or one-shot Vegeta into oblivion. Nobody expects that of Mr. Satan, so nobody gets frustrated when he's treated like a joke.

edited 16th Jun '16 11:11:28 AM by TobiasDrake

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40416: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:11:41 AM

Well good for Chiaotzu.

Is that how you spell his name? I always forget?

No pun intended.

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#40417: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:15:40 AM

It's spelled a ton of different ways. I, personally, like Chaotzu, but the official English spelling is indeed Chiaotzu.

edited 16th Jun '16 11:16:02 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#40418: Jun 16th 2016 at 11:31:09 AM

These are all the ways Chiaotzu has been spelled across various dubs and translations: Chiaotzu, Chaozu, Chaoz, Jiaozi, Chiao-tzu, Czaotsu, Chauzo, Kao, Kaoz, Shiatzu, Riff, Čiaodzu, Čiaucas, Čaoz, and Giáo Tử.

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#40419: Jun 16th 2016 at 12:19:38 PM

Why did you even bother including the one with the dash...it's spelled exactly the same as the first one.

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#40420: Jun 16th 2016 at 12:34:22 PM

  • Yamcha: What's the deal with your name, anyway?
  • Chiaotzu: It's supposed to be vaguely Chinese-ish to match the foreign aesthetic Tenshinhan and I had when we were introduced. China's one of Japan's go-to nationalities for evil people.
  • Yamcha: We don't have a China. We live in a one-world nation ruled by a dog.
  • Chiaotzu: Fine, I bought too many vowels on Wheel of Fortune, ARE YOU HAPPY NOW?!

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#40421: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:06:01 PM

Tenshinhan and Chiaotzu's names are based on food.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#40422: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:15:38 PM

Yes...but why would Chaozu tell him that?

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#40423: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:17:50 PM

Specifically, Tenshinhan is a crab rice dish called Tenshindon, and Chiaotzu is the Japanese translation for the Chinese word for 'dumpling': Gyoza or Jiaozi.

edited 16th Jun '16 1:27:27 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#40424: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:22:35 PM

I thought it was a crab dish.

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#40425: Jun 16th 2016 at 1:26:53 PM

A crab-meat omelette on rice.


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