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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#39376: May 28th 2016 at 11:53:33 PM

But wouldn't being bigger mean having more ki?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#39377: May 28th 2016 at 11:56:39 PM

[up] Short answer: no. Not even remotely close.

[up][up] That's also a possibility but the art doesn't make it look that bad in most panels.

But that idea is still one I liked, even if the idea didn't reflect it. Before we got my U6 roster my idea was for the female Saiyans to be different from our Saiyans because they stuck to the graded forms, and instead found a way to better distribute the muscle mass in Grade III so that they became taller and more balanced.

I knew that had 0% chance of becoming real, I just had fun thinking of how I would have done it. Still prefer my idea honestlytongue

Although I'm not surprised the whole "no Freeza / Saiyan homeworld still around" backstory I had turned out the same.

edited 29th May '16 12:00:23 AM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39378: May 29th 2016 at 12:00:17 AM

Well do make note, whenever we've had really muscular characters, they were also huge in stature compared to everyone else; the muscles didn't look so out of place on them because of that. With Trunks, and with Perfect Cell when he showed off the same thing, their bodies didn't really grow that much compared to the massive growth in muscles/the muscles looked out of proportion compared to the character. Like, compare the muscles of say, Recoome or Nappa, with the muscles of Power-Weighted Cell; by that point it was just ridiculous.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#39379: May 29th 2016 at 12:03:48 AM

How is ki supposed to work, then?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#39380: May 29th 2016 at 12:04:43 AM

I dunno, Trunks' muscles just aren't that big in Grade III. It's probably just for aesthetics so he still looks good, but he could have afforded to be a lot less proportionate.

Oh yeah, and Cell actually did increase in size when he used his power weighted form against Gohan. He immediately got his ass handed to him, though, so we don't know if he still had the speed problem or what (however Trunks says he's making that mistake).

[up] Basically life energy. The quantity and quality of your ki only depends on itself, essentially. You can be born with large amounts of it, have great potential for it, refine it, control it, increase it, but it's not dependent on your size.

edited 29th May '16 12:05:48 AM by Saiga

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#39381: May 29th 2016 at 12:08:32 AM

Didn't Cell also show off the state to Trunks, telling him that he can "do it too", as in the Grade III state?

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#39382: May 29th 2016 at 12:10:37 AM

Yeah, but when he did it there it was exactly like Trunks - muscle increase at the same height level. Against Gohan, he grows a lot larger in height.

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#39383: May 29th 2016 at 12:12:29 AM

Still, even from that he still looked way buffer than he honestly needed to be; he tried fighting back just by making himself some bigger muscles, so he was probably just forcing all of his ki into physical strength or something.

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#39384: May 29th 2016 at 1:16:33 AM

[up]x4 Not that big? His muscles were obscenely large. [1]

He'd be a bodybuilder with a build like that in real life.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#39385: May 29th 2016 at 1:23:04 AM

It's not to the point where it looks ridiculous in a bad way, he's sayin'.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#39386: May 29th 2016 at 2:38:05 AM

So you're saying that would be an obtainable build in real life.

Which makes it fall well short of something that would be extreme in Dragon Ball.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#39387: May 29th 2016 at 2:59:55 AM

Yes, after years of dedication (and a little roids on the side) I guess you too could look like Trunks.

However, that doesn't mean it's not extreme in the context of Dragon Ball either (in terms of big muscled guys here).

edited 29th May '16 3:00:32 AM by hardcorefakes

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#39388: May 29th 2016 at 3:27:23 AM

Being ridiculous in real life doesn't make it any less ridiculous in fiction-land.

I see big biceps and legceps body-build guy...possibly on steroids, Trunks' muscles do not compare.

edited 29th May '16 3:28:05 AM by randomness4

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hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#39389: May 29th 2016 at 3:32:11 AM

Oh absolutely. There are people out there with 1% body fat. Trunks doesn't even compare.

His USSJ muscles are still insane though.

And speaking of Trunks, do you think he'll be back with a new form? SSJ 2 perhaps?

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#39390: May 29th 2016 at 3:39:41 AM

I'll be a little disappointed if Trunks doesn't at least have Super Saiyan 2 when he returns.

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#39391: May 29th 2016 at 4:14:00 AM

[up] I think I'm going to be disappointed either way. If he shows up and he's not powerful, it makes you wonder what the point of him being there is going to be. If he shows up and he IS powerful, it's going to look even more like a bad fanfic.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#39392: May 29th 2016 at 4:17:06 AM

Super Saiyan 3 might be too much, but Trunks having attained Super Saiyan 2 in however long it's been for him is completely realistic.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#39393: May 29th 2016 at 4:17:54 AM

He shouldn't be significantly more powerful...unless the events of Shin Budokai happens, it wouldn't make sense.

If the Majin Buu stuffs happens, he should be dead.

There's no win.

[up]That's possible, he's almost can reach that form anyway.

edited 29th May '16 4:19:11 AM by randomness4

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#39394: May 29th 2016 at 4:21:40 AM

Well, presumably Black Goku causing problems spurred on some physical growth, and it's possible he is part of the Time Patrol.

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#39395: May 29th 2016 at 4:22:20 AM

[up][up]Luckily for Trunks, since all of the Z-Fighters (except for Roshi) were killed, Babidi would probably not come to Earth seeking energy for Majin Buu. And even if he did, he wouldn't be able to gather enough energy for Buu, and Trunks would probably end up killing Babidi anyway.

However, Beerus and Whis coming is up in the air really.

I think SSJ 2 is the perfect sweet spot for Trunks.

edited 29th May '16 4:26:02 AM by hardcorefakes

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#39396: May 29th 2016 at 4:27:53 AM

It'd take longer since there are less humans in general.

But Trunks is basically a free energy boost. Dabura being there wouldn't be effected by events...he's Cell strong.

edited 29th May '16 4:28:56 AM by randomness4

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#39397: May 29th 2016 at 4:34:38 AM

True. Hopefully Trunks ascended to SSJ 2 then (and hopefully his form is as strong as the one Gohan used against Cell).

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#39398: May 29th 2016 at 4:39:01 AM

The boost to Ssj 2 would put him way above Perfect Cell...by extension Dabura.

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#39399: May 29th 2016 at 4:43:51 AM

Or Dabura is Super Perfect Cell.

hardcorefakes coolest_guy from probably America Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#39400: May 29th 2016 at 4:53:48 AM

Who should be <= SSJ 2 Gohan.

Although Cell did manage to f*ck up Gohan's arm.


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