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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#39126: May 19th 2016 at 2:33:36 PM

I dunno. I just don't think Towa and Dabura's relationship is that important in the grand scheme of things. I just kind of assume that Dabura and Towa are dicks to each other.

That's what brothers do after all.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#39127: May 19th 2016 at 2:33:52 PM

[up][up]Yeah. That one's gonna dominate the conversation I think.

That's the kind of thing that becomes a Meme eventually.

Anyway, the thing about both Dabura, and Raditz, and a lot of characters (especially the villains) is...

Well, they aren't really important beyond the arc they appear.

Yes, it would be interesting to explore the background between Dabura and Towa, but that's not what Toriyama (or whoever is in charge of Online and Xenoverse) cares about.

Dabura was there to be an obstacle to the heroes and get punked by Majin Boo.

Raditz existed to reveal Goku's past, and had no relevance beyond that, despite the fact that being the brother of the main character should have made him very important.

Hell, Frieza, popular as he is—that he was revived in the official series, then brought back again in the form of a alternate universe counterpart—only exists to create a situation where Vegeta could start a Heel–Face Turn since he took Vegeta's place as the big bad guy of the story.

Toriyama's villains are there to be villains. Not to be developed. And once they've done their job, they are tossed aside.

The exception of course, are the ones who do a Heel–Face Turn, which is a large bulk of the cast, but even they often finish their arcs within the arc they appear, cause when you make things up as you go along, long term planning for character arcs aren't too likely (or will be abandoned as soon as the author changes his mind).

edited 19th May '16 2:35:25 PM by HandsomeRob

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#39128: May 19th 2016 at 2:34:32 PM

There are many flavors of dick.

Edit: DAMNIT.

edited 19th May '16 2:35:31 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#39129: May 19th 2016 at 2:36:05 PM

[up]

Really?

I write that whole post above, and that's the part you comment on?

You used to be cool critic.tongue

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#39130: May 19th 2016 at 2:40:52 PM

Look, when it comes down to it, it doesn't really matter what flavor of dick Raditz is, but what flavor of dick he makes Goku show.

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#39131: May 19th 2016 at 2:41:14 PM

I do feel Dabura was a waste. His early defeat screwed the characters out of a potential whole new realm to explore.

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#39132: May 19th 2016 at 2:41:21 PM

Yes, but the difference between Raditz and Dabura is that Raditz's family connection was introduced with him at a time when Goku was still relevant. It served its purpose.

Towa's relationship with Dabura was introduced after Dabura had ceased to be relevant. It serves no purpose.

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#39133: May 19th 2016 at 2:41:29 PM

I didn't even know that post existed when I wrote that. I just read the conversation and wanted to steal the page-topper with "There are many flavors of dick." since that's gold. And I would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling ninjas!

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#39134: May 19th 2016 at 2:43:55 PM

Doesn't help Heroes had Towa bring Dabura back and have him join the Time Breakers alongside his sister and brother-in-law, and his potential nephew.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#39135: May 19th 2016 at 2:44:10 PM

Towa wasn't even the main villain in Xenoverse. Whyever would we waste time on her relationship with Dabura when we have the more relevant relationship between Demigra's stomach and Tokitoki?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#39136: May 19th 2016 at 2:52:18 PM

Because everything about the Demon Realm is tragically unexplored.

It's a shame he showed up post Cell, as he'd have made an interesting villain in his own right, rather than just a mind controlled mook.

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#39137: May 19th 2016 at 3:01:27 PM

Heck, just give him a second form or something. There you go, problem solved.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#39138: May 19th 2016 at 3:53:31 PM

Towa's creation Mira was the main antagonist of Online. Is? Online didn't have an ending it just sorta. Stopped. Guess it wasn't making enough money.

Then again resolution is sorta contrary to the mmo business model to begin with.

Only exception I know is the original Final Fantasy 14. When they were cancelling it to reboot it to A Realm Reborn. And made the cancellation and reboot part of the plot. As a literal apocalypse.

Xenoverse had a stinger with Mira where he regenerated.

edited 19th May '16 3:57:33 PM by unnoun

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#39139: May 19th 2016 at 6:07:25 PM

Online Multiplayer CRP games do have resolution. You resolve a conflict an then a new conflict starts up, kind of like the Dragon Ball manga. Dragon Ball MMO was a no brainer.

Dabura almost assuredly would have shown up in online, but the time leak and time machine portions never got past the Android saga before the plug was pulled. That's why we never learned what Towa thinks of Dabura. Though Xenoverse implied she cared enough to avenge his death, that's something right?

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#39140: May 20th 2016 at 2:14:05 AM

Odds of Super Saiyan Pan appearing in Super before any other form of media?

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#39141: May 20th 2016 at 2:18:29 AM

A random percentage.

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#39143: May 20th 2016 at 9:10:06 AM

Negative infinity.

Speaking of female offspring, anyone get the feeling that Bulla/Bra could possible end up being the strongest? I mean if Goten and Trunks could become Super Saiyan at a young age due to their fathers being Super Saiyans, what does that say about her if she is born with Vegeta now being a SSGSS?

edited 20th May '16 9:10:38 AM by LLSmoothJ

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#39144: May 20th 2016 at 9:37:58 AM

Nothing, because this is Naruto Dragon Ball.

edited 20th May '16 9:38:19 AM by VeryMelon

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#39145: May 20th 2016 at 9:55:41 AM

I mean.

On the one hand, it would be one of the ultimate ways to declare "fuck GT".

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#39146: May 20th 2016 at 10:29:04 AM

But it would also mean doing something with other female characters besides Bulma.

I love Bulma—horrible person that she is—but it'd be nice if other women in the series got to do a bit more.

Hell, Bulma is the only one where becoming a housewife didn't mean becoming irrelevant.

edited 20th May '16 10:29:21 AM by HandsomeRob

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#39147: May 20th 2016 at 10:54:19 AM

Excuse me, but Videl got to be Gohan's baby basket for an arc.

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#39148: May 20th 2016 at 11:40:20 AM

Vados is one of the two strongest beings we know of.

Which stopped meaning anything because Omni-King.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#39149: May 20th 2016 at 11:42:23 AM

But Vados isn't really a main character, and will probably never throw a punch anyway, because she's so powerful, there won't be anyone who stands a chance against her.

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#39150: May 20th 2016 at 12:15:49 PM

18 essentially got her own mini-arc in the manga, and she was never really "one of the gang."


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