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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#38126: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:09:45 PM

So what you're saying is that Videl is better at flying after a month than Goku was after five years.

Videl: human prodigy.

edited 22nd Apr '16 10:10:14 PM by unnoun

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#38127: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:11:43 PM

It could also be because she learned flying from Gohan, who learned it from Piccolo, who claimed to have a superior technique for it.

Damn throwaway comments that aren't elaborated on!

edited 22nd Apr '16 10:12:02 PM by Saiga

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38128: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:15:06 PM

Krillin and Yamchan probably learned it from Tien when they were training together.

edited 22nd Apr '16 10:15:27 PM by randomness4

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#38129: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:18:01 PM

[up][up]It could also be that Goku was terribad at flying.

And, for something completely different...

Say, did Goku ever actually defeat Vegeta in a fight?

edited 22nd Apr '16 10:18:50 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#38130: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:23:19 PM

Nope.

They've only directly fought twice. The first time Vegeta beat Goku but was weakened enough for Krillin, Gohan, and Yajirobe to drive him off. The second time they ended the fight early without either having a clear upper hand because of the threat of Majin Buu (and Goku was holding back anyway).

edited 22nd Apr '16 10:25:00 PM by DarkHunter

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#38131: Apr 22nd 2016 at 10:27:11 PM

Vegeta sucker-gutted Goku during that second fight, apparently that was enough.

If Vegeta and Goku ever got the chance, they'd probably end up fighting until they both pass out from exhaustion...

edited 22nd Apr '16 10:29:05 PM by randomness4

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#38132: Apr 23rd 2016 at 1:59:08 AM

Remember the episode 40 summary that said Champa got pissed off and someone stepped in to stop him? Yeah, the magazine did a mistake and that was meant for episode 41.

So that ends a bit of confusion, I guess.

edited 23rd Apr '16 10:03:54 AM by Rinsankajugin

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#38133: Apr 23rd 2016 at 6:16:46 AM

Yeah. It's funny because other characters such as Krillin like to talk about how Goku could totally whup Vegeta and after the Ginyus, they're usually right. But he's never actually gotten to do it.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#38134: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:06:41 AM

Spoilers for episode 42

An uproar at the victory celebration! Facing off at last?! Monaka vs. Son Goku". Goku and the other members of Universe 7's team have safely notched their victory against Universe 6. But their victory celebrations are short-lived, as the Zen'ō ("Lords of everything"), the individuals standing at the pinnacle of the 12 universes, appear before them! And so the tale takes an unexpected turn. Tagline at the top says, "Zen'ō, Lords of the 12 universes, make a surprising suggestion!"

Things are getting crazy...

edited 23rd Apr '16 10:07:10 AM by Rinsankajugin

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#38135: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:08:34 AM

[up]Eh.If they follow the creation theme,they'll probably suck.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#38136: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:09:56 AM

Jiggamawha!? Even higher gods?

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#38137: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:11:52 AM

Hey, remember when the Kais were supposed to be the important gods of Dragon Ball?

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#38138: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:13:55 AM

Not that surprising.Every aspect of creation has a god apparently.So the Grand Supreme Kai and the 7th Universe boss ruled over the same thing? tongue

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#38139: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:17:09 AM

So here's the Heiarchy as it seems to stand now:

Kami < Kai < Supreme Kai < Destruction God < Whis' Species? < The Zen'o

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#38140: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:19:18 AM

Since the Supreme Kais administer creation, and the Gods of Destruction, errm, destruction, I'd wager these guys are deistic administrator figures that make sure everyone else is doing their job but otherwise don't directly interfere.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#38142: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:25:04 AM

They do kinda look like robots. The tall one's giving me a creepy vibe for some reason...

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#38143: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:28:56 AM

At least they conform to the "DB gods look weird" rule.

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#38144: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:33:52 AM

I'm completely not surprised that there are even higher gods. The whole power structure always seemed to be missing something.

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#38146: Apr 23rd 2016 at 10:55:18 AM

So, if Hit can outmanuver Goku, as well as injure him in Super Saiyan God Blue mode, then... Hit might very well be able to assassinate Champa or Beerus.

Assuming Beerus didn't just blow up the planet, but still.

This proves it doesn't take godly ki. Frieza might have been an outlier, but you really can get strong enough to harm beings like Beerus through sheer physical effort. Vegeta smacking Beerus around in Battle of Gods wasn't completely nonsensical.

Soon. maybe even Tien could hold Beerus down with a consecutive Tri-Beam volley.

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#38147: Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:02:49 AM

No, Vegeta being able to hurt Beerus is still nonsensical, given that SSJ 3 Goku, who is at least four times as strong as Vegeta's maximum power, couldn't even touch Beerus.

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Hobgoblin Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#38148: Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:21:01 AM

Beerus was momentarily caught off guard, wasn't he?

If anything, I think it's more amazing that Vegeta was able to tank a punch from Beerus when he'd been knocking everyone else out with light taps.

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#38149: Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:24:39 AM

Soon. maybe even Tien could hold Beerus down with a consecutive Tri-Beam volley.

Maybe if Tien trains for four months and becomes million times stronger.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#38150: Apr 23rd 2016 at 11:26:33 AM

[up][up]Eh, Vegeta tanking attacks way out of his weight class isn't something new.

Even if he was caught off guard, it still should not have been strong enough to make Beerus notice it at all.

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