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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37926: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:15:36 PM

Simply put: It doesn't make a whole lot of sense. It's just like that. You might as well be asking why the transformation grows his hair, or why his hair turns gold when he transforms, or why he has a tail.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37927: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:27:19 PM

No, I just meant that skin growing over the eyebrow hair thing, not the transformation.

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#37928: Apr 20th 2016 at 7:47:24 PM

It makes about as much sense as Goku's forehead jutting out and his eyebrows falling off for no reason.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#37929: Apr 20th 2016 at 9:56:39 PM

Guys! I think we're overlooking something. Pan gets to be one fifth of a super saiyan!

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#37930: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:14:35 PM

There is no proof that fusion goes Super Saiyan.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37931: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:34:39 PM

So...if you could make the multipliers for every Super Saiyan form every made to be whatever you wanted, what would they be?

edited 20th Apr '16 10:35:01 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#37932: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:35:50 PM

50/5/4

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37933: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:38:57 PM

Well, I meant compared to base. >.>

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#37934: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:40:20 PM

Super Saiyan: x50

Super Saiyan 2: x100

Super Saiyan 3: x400

Super Saiyan 4: x4000

Super Saiyan God: x8000

Super Saiyan Blue: x8000

edited 21st Apr '16 7:40:47 AM by VeryMelon

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#37935: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:41:01 PM

50/250/1,000

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#37936: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:46:24 PM

The Super Saiyan 3 and eyebrows thing is something I've been wondering for years and I still can't think about it without giggling. It's about as absurd to talk about as "Goku is faster than time itself". Although some people were saying that there was a proper explanation for that scene and he wasn't ACTUALLY faster than time.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#37937: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:48:54 PM

Being able to move while time is stopped without having that explicit ability = being able to move faster than time

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37938: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:52:53 PM

For me:

  • Great Ape: x10
  • False Super Saiyan: x25
  • Super Saiyan: x50
    • Ascended Super Saiyan: x75
    • Ultra/Legendary Super Saiyan: Either x100 or x125 (Not sure whether to make the forms stronger based on Cell's version of it being stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Gohan, or make it 100 to make it a) the Saiyans trying, and failing, to push themselves, unknowingly, to Super Saiyan 2's level of power, and b) to make it Broly's version of Super Saiyan 2.)
  • Super Saiyan 2: x100
  • Super Saiyan 3: x400
  • Golden/Super (Saiyan) Great Ape: x500
  • Super Saiyan 4: x1000
  • Super Saiyan God: x4000
  • Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan: x200,000 (Would basically be going Super Saiyan as a Super Saiyan God, and would basically act as the final form of the series, since due to scaling Goku/Vegeta would rival Whis in power with this, at least in my version.)

And for extra fun:

  • Super Saiyan God Great Ape: x40,000 (Would be a red Great Ape.)
  • Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 2: x400,000
  • Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 3: x1,600,000
  • Super Saiyan God Super (Saiyan) Great Ape: x2,000,000 (Would be a blueish-white Super Great Ape.)
  • Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan 4: x4,000,000 (The final form would obviously have a 4 somewhere in the multiplier.)

edited 20th Apr '16 10:59:15 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#37939: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:56:44 PM

I have toyed with the idea of 5/2/2, or to show the total increase: 5/10/20. The concept revolves around Kaio-Ken never going higher than 2 and Power Levels being as scaled down as possible.

edited 20th Apr '16 10:57:58 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37940: Apr 20th 2016 at 10:58:11 PM

I'd like some feedback on my edit to the Ultra Super Saiyan form. >.>

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#37941: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:03:00 PM

I always had a feeling USSJ might have been slightly stronger than SSJ2, but no one would notice due to the extreme bulkiness and lack of speed.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37942: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:08:14 PM

Personally, I see the muscles as not actually making you slower, I see them as just holding you back enough so that you wouldn't gain an increase in speed like you'd think USSJ would, so it's stuck at the same speed as ASSJ; this isn't going to help you much if the opponent was already faster than you when you were in the previous state.

edited 20th Apr '16 11:09:16 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#37943: Apr 20th 2016 at 11:22:36 PM

I interpret Ultra Super Saiyan as slowing you down to half the speed of normal Super Saiyan.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37944: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:26:59 AM

All it does is slow down your physical attack rate.

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#37945: Apr 21st 2016 at 12:55:27 AM

I find it kind of weird that Great Ape is only a x10 multiplier when it's much, much more than x10 the mass increase.

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#37946: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:42:57 AM

Power/=/Mass.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37947: Apr 21st 2016 at 1:48:32 AM

That's the problem with sticking to numbers, multipliers, and transformations.

Ape transformation should be strongest thing...only being weaker than magic or mystical powers like Majin Buu, Beers, and Whis.

It's not.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37948: Apr 21st 2016 at 3:20:31 AM

So...if you could make the multipliers for every Super Saiyan form every made to be whatever you wanted, what would they be?

Depends what you mean. If we're just talking about ones that would match the series as is, I'm fine with the official ones we have and I can't comment on the God forms until we have more information on them.

If you're meaning the story could be changed to accommodate them, then x10/x20/x30 for Super Saiyan 1 - 3, with Kaio-ken maxing out at x5. For a lower amount of inflation overall.

[up] That really has nothing to do with numbers or multipliers.

edited 21st Apr '16 3:21:09 AM by Saiga

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37949: Apr 21st 2016 at 3:25:43 AM

To be fair, the numbers themselves are meaningless, so it's not like anything would change.

You could reduce inflation by implying that higher numbers have increasing returns. So the difference between 15000 and 10000 is way higher than the difference between 1000 and 1500.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#37950: Apr 21st 2016 at 3:39:35 AM

[up][up]You're right, it's just what the transformations do to your physical stats.

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