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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37601: Apr 15th 2016 at 11:00:58 PM

Well...they probably figured that it was just his massive ego. He did think really highly of himself back then.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37602: Apr 15th 2016 at 11:05:49 PM

I would not put it past Vegeta to arbitrarily invent a whole new rank for Saiyans almost twice the strength of the previous King just to prop up his ego.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#37603: Apr 15th 2016 at 11:29:19 PM

It wouldn't really matter if he made it up - Toriyama's classification of elite only included the two Vegetas, so the top class is just as narrow in either case.

I just think assuming it's three classes with the Saiyans using more pretentious terminology fits best and doesn't require any retcons to the manga.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37604: Apr 16th 2016 at 12:42:10 AM

Being stronger doesn't make you the one in power. Secret service agents are stronger than the president but they can't just beat him up and take the job.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37605: Apr 16th 2016 at 12:43:59 AM

In Saiyan culture it does.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37606: Apr 16th 2016 at 12:44:56 AM

I don't think Whis and Beerus are part of Saiyan culture.

What if Guru had unlocked Goku's potential?

edited 16th Apr '16 12:47:05 AM by unnoun

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#37607: Apr 16th 2016 at 12:47:44 AM

I thought you were referencing King Vegeta.

Manaic Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#37608: Apr 16th 2016 at 4:32:50 AM

Based on Whis's comment he's capable of replacing Beerus, which would mean he is in the position of power. Beerus certainly isn't if Whis can get rid of him and just grab someone else to do it.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#37609: Apr 16th 2016 at 8:29:44 AM

Whis is more powerful, but doesn't want to do the destroying himself, or it's against the rules of his species to do so, so he has Beerus to do it for him as long has Beerus doesn't go overboard, which can be easily fixed by a time-reverse and a neck-chop.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37610: Apr 16th 2016 at 8:52:00 AM

Most likely he just doesn't want to be the God of Destruction.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#37611: Apr 16th 2016 at 9:20:19 AM

Which is a shame, since he'd at least not be as much of a dick as Beerus can be.

Though Beerus is more of a dick in Super than he was in Battle of Gods.

One Strip! One Strip!
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37612: Apr 16th 2016 at 10:37:12 AM

Whis isn't as much of a dick because he's too lazy to be, even lazier than Beerus, and he's a cat.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#37613: Apr 16th 2016 at 2:46:35 PM

Whis did not imply that he could replace Beerus with someone else. He offered the Job of God of destruction to Goku for when or if Beerus dies.

On the Strong Namekians. The Nemekians were described as being a species that tended to be naturally powerful with much higher then average power levels.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37614: Apr 16th 2016 at 2:49:59 PM

Vegeta also said they were weaker, on average than Saiyans, though. They just made up for it with mysticism.

edited 16th Apr '16 2:50:24 PM by LSBK

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#37615: Apr 16th 2016 at 3:34:54 PM

[up]Well they were. They only had 4 fairly powerful fighters.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37616: Apr 16th 2016 at 3:37:37 PM

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just adding on to what you said.

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#37617: Apr 16th 2016 at 3:39:59 PM

Late to the party, but I think there's some cultural running-joke with the super elite thing. In Kamen Rider Decade, Decade once ended up in a world where there was a business/class hierarchy that the local riders were in. When asked what class he was, Decade responded by saying he was obviously an "elite; no, a super elite", despite the hierarchy being displayed prominantly moments before with elite as the highest class.

Or maybe not.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37618: Apr 16th 2016 at 4:02:01 PM

Beerus has been alive for at least 75 million years. Either he is immortal or so long lived that the point is rendered moot, because it's pretty clear he'll outlive Goku, and Whis should know this. There's also the fact that there's all of one being in the entire universe who can take Beerus on a fight and win and that is Whis himself, so it's very unlikely that Goku would ever be alive when Beerus isn't unless Whis kills Beerus himself. By saying "When he dies", Whis is again referencing the fact that Kami intended to die once he was no longer the guardian of Earth.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37619: Apr 16th 2016 at 4:08:24 PM

Um...you do know Goku can keep his body when he's dead, right? Or the fact that Goku would technically be immortal at that point? Goku would literally have all of eternity to surpass Beerus, simply due to how the afterlife works here, and there's nothing stating that Goku couldn't become the next God of Destruction after he dies.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37620: Apr 16th 2016 at 4:09:25 PM

By that same logic though, there's not really anything that says that Beerus has to stop being the God of Destruction after he dies.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#37621: Apr 16th 2016 at 4:57:45 PM

[up]See that.

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Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#37622: Apr 16th 2016 at 4:59:18 PM

It wouldn't really matter if he made it up - Toriyama's classification of elite only included the two Vegetas, so the top class is just as narrow in either case.

Wasn't the saiyan ranks based off their ability (or lack thereof ) to control their Oozaru forms?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#37624: Apr 16th 2016 at 5:03:00 PM

I do remember that Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and 3 ran with that; Vegeta and King Vegeta could control themselves perfectly in the Ozaru state, Nappa was capable of controlling himself somewhat as one, with him being able to talk in a limited fashion, and everyone else was just going primal monkey noises all the time.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012

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