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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
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#37453: Apr 12th 2016 at 10:17:28 AM

I'm not sure I even followed that sentence.

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#37454: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:02:17 PM

In either scenario, Cell either could barely handle Gohan at 50%, or he couldn't at all. 

That's not right. Cell was pushing Gohan back while laughing and having a good time. That's not "barely" handling him.

If that was 50% of Gohan's power than it absolutely doesn't measure up to Cell, is no threat to Cell, and can only delay the inevitable.

Piccolo also described his ki as "far too weak" during the clash.

edited 12th Apr '16 8:03:14 PM by Saiga

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#37455: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:05:41 PM

Yeah, Gohan was having a much harder time throughout up until the very end where he had the chance to let out more power with Cell distracted.

I think the distraction actually being important says something, too.

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#37456: Apr 12th 2016 at 8:11:48 PM

"Barely handling" may have been a poor choice of words, but the point is that Cell's advantage, though insurmountable, wasn't so great that Gohan couldn't push back against it. Cell was clearly more powerful, but not so powerful that he could simply smash Gohan's Kamehameha back in his face as he might to, say, Piccolo or Vegeta.

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#37457: Apr 13th 2016 at 1:42:11 AM

I don't get why people are assuming that Super Saiyan 1 Vegeta was way above Super Saiyan 1 Cabba because Cabba's punch did nothing to Vegeta's face when Vegeta very clearly headbutted his fist.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#37458: Apr 13th 2016 at 2:02:34 AM

Japanese Spirit

See any kind of percents or numbers there? There's your explanation.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#37459: Apr 13th 2016 at 11:58:28 AM

wild mass guessI have a feeling Monaka might be the next villain, using the Super Dragon Balls to wish to be one of the most powerful and immortal...

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37460: Apr 13th 2016 at 5:53:47 PM

Damn, that could be a thing.

I wonder if the Super Dragon Balls have a consent clause. Because given they're planet-sized, created by a "Dragon God", I highly doubt it.

Question.

Doesn't Porunga operate under the same 'can't affect anyone stronger than the creator"? rule? How'd he move the entirety of Planet Namek then? Even if Guru was somehow above Kami's level and the rest of the Namekian warriors (Nail), he'd still have to have moved Vegeta. They couldn't forcibly relocate Goku.

edited 13th Apr '16 6:09:39 PM by Soble

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37461: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:05:47 PM

The only source we have for Guru's PL is a video game, and thus probably not fully canon. The number was 2000, so well above Kami, though that doesn't explain why Porunga could move Vegeta.

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#37462: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:19:11 PM

Consent is probably part of it, a wish the target would want is a lot easier to push through, but if someone would resist the wish's implementation, then it becomes about power level.

Although we seem to be in firm retcon territory with the idea that the other dragon balls were taken from the Super Dragon Balls.

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#37463: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:35:00 PM

Presumably, subconsciously Vegeta wanted to be as far away from Freeza as possible, and Porunga used that as consent.

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#37464: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:50:30 PM

Vegeta flew towards the Dragon...avoiding the fight, but when he was close to Freezerator, he tried to attack him anyway.

It's like he forgot how his Saiyan genes work.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37465: Apr 13th 2016 at 6:51:53 PM

Anyone else find it both funny and strange that, judging by their Buu Saga cameos, Nam, Giran, and Baba's fighters apparently bought into the whole Mr. Satan thing?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#37466: Apr 13th 2016 at 7:00:57 PM

Mr. Satan probably did beat the sh*t out of at least a few strong people. He'd have had to, in order to win.

edited 13th Apr '16 7:01:13 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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DarkHunter from New Mexico Since: Jan, 2001
#37467: Apr 13th 2016 at 7:04:04 PM

A lot of people do seem to forget that Mr. Satan actually won his first world championship. The man does know martial arts and is legitimately very strong by normal human standards (pulling five buses, shattering 19 tiles with one chop, and ripping three phonebooks in half are not easy feats).

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#37468: Apr 13th 2016 at 7:05:20 PM

Ripping apart one phonebook is fucking hard, man! Didn't Mythbusters test out how much force it'd take to pull two phonebooks apart or something?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37469: Apr 13th 2016 at 7:06:15 PM

He's the Global figurehead of the DB world.

edited 13th Apr '16 7:07:05 PM by randomness4

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#37471: Apr 13th 2016 at 7:11:23 PM

Holy f*cking sh*t, they should make tanks out of interwoven phone books.

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#37472: Apr 13th 2016 at 7:21:03 PM

I kinda wish Mr. Satan had his own crime fighting spinoff now.

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#37473: Apr 13th 2016 at 9:33:56 PM

So you think the reason Buu didn't participate was because he's a pretty hard counter to Hit's fighting style...ya know, since he has no pressure points to speak of.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#37474: Apr 13th 2016 at 9:35:25 PM

No, he probably didn't participate because he's not as popular as the other four.

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#37475: Apr 13th 2016 at 9:38:22 PM

Monaka just debuted and I doubt Piccolo is anywhere near as popular as Goku or Vegeta...but I get your point since for all intents and purpose, they're the only ones who actually mattered in the outcome.

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