Okay, so: Base Goku can block and injure Hit while Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta gets lolstomped. Either Super Saiyan Blue isn't a huge multiplier, or Hit is actually around Base Goku's level and is just REALLY, REALLY good at pressure points. Assuming Hit used the same level of power for both of them.
edited 10th Apr '16 8:03:35 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
Piccolo was shown training with base Gohan, I definitely don't think he's stronger than Gohan now.
Also Pushover you are wrong about the manga events. Even after Piccolo took off his weights, Vegeta noted he was on the defensive and burning through his stamina faster than Frost. He was definitely weaker, and putting in a good showing by burning through his energy so fast.
He would have eventually lost, having worn down Frost some more for Vegeta. As Goku predicted.
Frost cheating at that point does make him look stupid but he was trying to conserve energy for the future fights. He outright admits he only cares about winning as quickly as possible.
Hit says he wasn't fighting for real yet.
edited 10th Apr '16 8:05:38 PM by Saiga
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Keep in mind that Goku found out ahead of time what technique Hit was using and had time to think on a strategy. Even SSB Vegeta took a large number of hits before he went down. Goku only got touched about four times before understanding how the technique worked.
And yeah, Hit's fighting style seems like King Crimson mixed with Neji Hyuuga.
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Technically Guuldo has The World.
By the way, what are the other two? Other time freezing Stands?
One Strip! One Strip!Plot twist: Goku never had Godly Ki in base. Freeza's 'I could raise my Power Level to 1,300,000' was actually completely legit, though he was talking about his First Form. His post-training Final Form was actually only twice as strong as SS1 Goku was on Namek, and Base Goku was stronger than that through Whis' training. It's a real tragedy that Android 18 wasn't there, because she actually could've kicked Freeza's ass, outside of Golden Form. Gohan being horribly injured by First Form Freeza was because Gohan sucks, and Piccolo dying to First Form was just him being dramatic.
Piccoro died?
To Freezerator?
Unbelievable.
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.I haven't read the chapter yet, but I do like this idea of Frost just being an impatient dick. In theory, it makes him a perfect foil for the likes of Goku and Vegeta.
- GOKU: Tournaments are fun and fighting is awesome. I don't even care what it's about. I just want to face tough opponents and have a great time!
- FROST: This tournament is a waste of time, you guys are stupid, and I just want to get it over with so I can get whatever boon I was promised for competing.
In theory, that's a Frost I can get behind. <.< Though I reserve the right to change my opinion when I actually get around to reading the chapter, if it's not as great as I'm imagining.
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Minosha before Super Saiyan Pan? Seriously?