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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3701: Oct 2nd 2013 at 4:35:29 PM

Arale from Dr. Slump could, but the one in Dragon Ball might not have.

And Instant Transmission isn't enough to justify Goku doing better. He did better even without the IT once he went Super Saiyan.

edited 2nd Oct '13 4:36:05 PM by Saiga

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#3702: Oct 2nd 2013 at 7:02:43 PM

Well maybe I will just have to watch Battle Of The Gods again later with that gripe in mind.

So Goku is a preteen, he really took idiot hero huh?

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#3703: Oct 2nd 2013 at 7:39:22 PM

Arale in Dr. Slump can split the planet in half with her physical strength alone.

I don't think anyone from dragonball could take that without some sort of pain to them..

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#3704: Oct 2nd 2013 at 7:44:42 PM

Goku never really came across as an idiot to me after he became an adult.

Just a person with bad judgment, ignorant at best and kind of goofy.

But adult Goku was never slow.

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#3705: Oct 2nd 2013 at 8:31:53 PM

Planet? Really? When Arale was drunk she moved the sun, with a fork, turning day into night...which 10 kinds of absurd (how did a fork reach that far, shoudln't it have melted, shouldn't Earth have moved instead, how does a robot get drunk yet perform not metabolic function-only being the most obvious) but she did it nonetheless.

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#3706: Oct 2nd 2013 at 9:17:48 PM

[up][up][up] Cracking a planet isn't all that impressive; not only do DB characters routinely punch away blasts with enough power to destroy the Earth hundreds of thousands of times over, but there's a calc going around the web now of what Goku punching a hole through a planet with x10 the gravity of Earth yet a tiny fraction of the size means. Basically: punching a planet in half would be like punching air to him, and he's weaksauce by the standard of the high tiers.

The sun feats are pretty impressive though. But I don't think Arale could take the higher tiers of the Buu Saga.

The Daizenshuu implies that Slump Arale and DB Arale truly are the same. If that's the case, it either died when Super Buu extinguished all the humans (unlikely, since he wouldn't have a ki signature to track) or when Pure Buu blew up the Earth. And since Arale was a machine, it was never brought back.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3707: Oct 2nd 2013 at 9:19:33 PM

However, Dr Slump takes place on an Earth that has the same geography as the real world, and doesn't use Zeni as currency. They can't be the same continuity.

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#3708: Oct 2nd 2013 at 9:22:29 PM

Well that's just what the Daiz says. It references events from Slump and applies them to DB Arale.

There's other issues too, like the rules of Arale's universe clearly not working like Dragon Ball's, with the planets all being close together and the sun only being a few times larger than the Earth.

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#3709: Oct 2nd 2013 at 9:27:57 PM

Don't forget Arale's Earth has a face on it.

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#3710: Oct 3rd 2013 at 5:54:00 AM

There's also the canon crossover between the two.

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#3711: Oct 3rd 2013 at 5:58:28 AM

What, the thing in the RRA arc? Or are you arbitrarily calling something else canon again?

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#3712: Oct 3rd 2013 at 6:09:11 AM

The thing with RRA arc was in the manga too.

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#3713: Oct 3rd 2013 at 9:23:15 AM

I believe Zeni does not show up until the world tournament, I remember the currency being different during the initial journey. I forgot how crazy Goku's match with Jackie Chun was. He was a Heli-Critter years before the fan lizard.

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#3714: Oct 3rd 2013 at 3:15:53 PM

[up][up] I'm aware of that, but there's a different crossover he may have been talking about.

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#3715: Oct 3rd 2013 at 5:55:22 PM

Does he mean the one where Goku went Great Ape and Arale handed him his ass?

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#3716: Oct 3rd 2013 at 5:59:17 PM

No, the one where Goku and General Blue fell onto their island.

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#3717: Oct 3rd 2013 at 6:00:56 PM

Yes, and that would put Penguin Village in Dragon Ball's universe, which means it's not the same Penguin Village as we see in Doctor Slump because Doctor Slump's world has an identical map and geography to our own.

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#3718: Oct 3rd 2013 at 6:02:22 PM

And how do you know THAT wasn't just a throwaway gag given the nature of Dr. Slump?

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#3719: Oct 3rd 2013 at 6:04:15 PM

Because it appears multiple times and there's no reason to think it is, since Dragon Ball was never planned at that stage and it wasn't presented as a gag.

And Senbei isn't as smart in Dragon Ball as he is in Dr Slump.

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#3720: Oct 3rd 2013 at 6:20:50 PM

Really Senbei who did not know that most dinosaurs were too large to be caught in bug nets is not as smart in Dragon Ball?

Yen exists in the first dragon ball arc and Sergeant Murosaki wears the American flag, stars, stripes and all, so I am not totally convinced they are different universes based on those.

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#3721: Oct 3rd 2013 at 6:24:36 PM

In terms of inventions, no. He can't figure out the Dragon Radar at all despite being building way more fantastic inventions in Doctor Slump.

I forgot about yen and the American flag, but the geography still isn't the same. Yen was given a currency conversion to zeni in Jaco anyway.

And Dr. Slump runs purely on gag logic when Dragon Ball doesn't. It's impossible to reconcile the two universes.

All we know is there is a Penguin Village in Dragon Ball and that Arale is strong enough to beat Blue.

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#3722: Oct 5th 2013 at 9:50:47 AM

Bulma has invented many of the same things as Senbe (shrinking device, time machine), it could be that he did not have time to really study whatever radiation/frequency the dragon balls give off and they would not fall under traditional science anyway. Senbe does not get Gachan either, who is a product of Earth's god just like the dragon balls are but his Touched by Vorlons son is not confused at all.

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#3723: Oct 7th 2013 at 9:11:53 AM

Visiting Kanzenshuu always cracks me up. Now they belie that Gohan can beat SSJ 3 Goku from Battle of the Gods.

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#3724: Oct 7th 2013 at 9:12:46 AM

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Isn't Mystic Gohan supposed to be more powerful than Super Saiyan 3 though?

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#3725: Oct 7th 2013 at 9:14:31 AM

Not after Bo G. Goku "absorbed the realm of power into his body" after SSG run out and could fight with Beers in base better than he did in SSJ 3 before. Or better than Gohan for that matter.


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