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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37051: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:13:03 PM

[up][up] Not sure how she'd do against Tao, though. Power scaling says Spopovich is probably stronger than him, and she was able to damage him a good amount before going down, but again I'm not sure.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#37052: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:33:39 PM

Videl was almost certainly stronger than Spopovich before he got boosted by Babidi. Mr. Satan beat Spopovich legit and Videl's stronger than him. That same Videl almost certainly would not be able to beat the Goku that got his ass kicked by Tao Pai Pai.

The only reason Videl hurt Majin Spopovich was because he was screwing around. He dominated her easily once he stopped playing.

edited 4th Apr '16 6:35:17 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37053: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:36:33 PM

Hell, I've theorized that a lot of those moments where she was tossing him around was him legitimately getting tossed around, because while Spopovitch was hopped up on enough evil to make him stronger, Videl still has far better technique.

Sure, most of the time he was just toying with her, but I think Spopovitch is dumb enough to get tossed around by a girl half his size, and nowhere near his level of power.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#37054: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:38:25 PM

I too think she legitimately hurt him.

Why does Yamu exist?

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37055: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:41:20 PM

So, I read an interesting theory that what actually decides the outcome of a fight isn't who has the highest power level, but actually the percent difference between two powers. Thoughts on this?

edited 4th Apr '16 6:41:36 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37057: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:49:06 PM

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Oh, I don't think she hurt him.

What she was doing to him is the equivalent of this scene (starts at 17s):

Good technique, no power needed.

edited 4th Apr '16 6:49:47 PM by HandsomeRob

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37058: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:52:47 PM

Well it was more like, just having a higher power level isn't enough to guarantee you win, while using the fight between Goku and Piccolo as an example of this. Basically the theory concluded this, using the power levels between Goku and Piccolo (start of Z), Nail and Frieza, Recoome and Vegeta, Goku and Nappa, and Goku and Vegeta: "Based on the calculations, up to a 5% difference will allow both fighters to fight on virtually even terms. 6-9% will give the stronger fighter a slight advantage. At 10% and up, the stronger fighter will dominate the fight. Above 25%, the weaker fighter has no chance of defeating the stronger fighter."

edited 4th Apr '16 6:53:26 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37059: Apr 4th 2016 at 6:58:01 PM

See, I've been wondering how close the powers have to be. Glad to hear that.

So between 5-9% gives you an actual fight. Good to know. I guess we know how small the gap between Piccolo and 17 must have been then.

edited 4th Apr '16 6:58:39 PM by HandsomeRob

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#37060: Apr 4th 2016 at 7:19:56 PM

Nappa was actually able to give Goku a decently fun fight even though Goku was twice as strong as Nappa. That kinda disproves the whole thing.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#37061: Apr 4th 2016 at 7:22:11 PM

Good point. Goku without the Kaiouken was at over 9000 over 8000 compared to Nappa's 4000. That's a pretty huge gap, even if we consider that Nappa was pulling his punches.

This is in contrast to Piccolo, who was 3500 and got wtfpwned as badly as everyone else.

Shit.

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#37062: Apr 4th 2016 at 8:09:08 PM

Well...at least one of the video games gave Nappa a power level of 7000, so...

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#37063: Apr 4th 2016 at 9:59:51 PM

[up]Honestly, that makes a lot more sense.

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37064: Apr 4th 2016 at 10:06:05 PM

It wouldn't need to if things were based on skill and durability.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#37065: Apr 4th 2016 at 10:28:58 PM

So it's soft confirmed that the next villain and next transformation are both white.

Any guesses? Since Toriyama is okay with Toyble putting in his two cents, what's any chance that Xicor might make an appearance?

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#37066: Apr 4th 2016 at 10:44:05 PM

That's Xicor's chances of becoming canon.

My various fanfics.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37067: Apr 4th 2016 at 11:05:06 PM

Right, if it was going to happen it would've happened 5 years ago.

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#37068: Apr 5th 2016 at 12:23:53 AM

Personally, I'm expecting the white-haired villain to be both Towa and Mira, and for the character related to the future to be Time Patrol Trunks.

edited 5th Apr '16 12:25:46 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#37069: Apr 5th 2016 at 2:10:44 AM

Towa and Mira are canon all of a sudden?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#37070: Apr 5th 2016 at 2:21:40 AM

They weren't not...canon.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#37072: Apr 5th 2016 at 3:18:07 AM

The games could give Nappa a powerlevel of eleven billion and make him be secretly the boyfriend of Jason McNally, but it doesn't mean much, now does it?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37073: Apr 5th 2016 at 3:25:26 AM

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They're not canon to the manga.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#37074: Apr 5th 2016 at 3:29:08 AM

Is the manga the sole definition of canon?

Because that'd leave Battle of Gods and Super out.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#37075: Apr 5th 2016 at 3:44:15 AM

See I'd argue the same about the first Bardock special and GT, but... Minus, Online, and Xenoverse are vastly preferred.

I think canon is whatever parts of the series we like and can attribute the most to the original writer's influence. Less cantankerously, no, I agree, canon is a loose term by this point.

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