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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#36476: Mar 26th 2016 at 7:50:21 AM

Ya know, I have a feeling people voted for Yamcha because of meme reasons.

NapoleonDeCheese Since: Oct, 2010
#36477: Mar 26th 2016 at 7:53:40 AM

Is there any other reason to vote Yamcha?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#36478: Mar 26th 2016 at 7:57:17 AM

Imagine children in the states of Hokkaido and Tohoku, waiting to play this challenge, and then being greeted with a boss team of SSJB Vegeta, SSJ3 Time Patrol Bardock and Yamcha.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#36479: Mar 26th 2016 at 9:02:23 AM

So, Super Buu is the villian who was outright subject to Cesation Of Existence, due to being pretty much lobotomized into an animal... Scary stuff indeed.

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#36480: Mar 26th 2016 at 9:05:58 AM

Fat Buu is also sapient. He can understand morality, as shown by the fact that when Mr. Satan explains to him that killing is bad and wrong, therefore badong, he decides to stop doing it. Fat Buu can be reasoned with.

No such thing is possible with the original Majin Buu. It doesn't want anything logical. It just wants to see the universe burn.

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#36481: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:04:45 AM

Except Kid Buu was sentient; he instantly learned how to use Kibito Kai's teleportation ability, made the most use of his unique body, and worked out that Goku wouldn't launch the Spirit Bomb as long as Vegeta was pinned down next to him. He was certainly sentient, just more when it came to combat.

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#36482: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:23:15 AM

You are mixing up sentient and sapient.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
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#36484: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:26:04 AM

Yeah, that's like a whole three letters. Stop that!

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#36485: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:27:23 AM

Since Tarble seems to be an alright amount of popular in Japan, ya think he'll eventually show up in Super?

It does seem odd to blow off someone as important as Vegeta's brother. (Then again, considering what happened to Goku's brother...)

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36486: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:28:18 AM

Being Vegeta's brother doesn't make him important.

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#36487: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:31:41 AM

But he needs to be a cool uncle for Trunks.

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#36488: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:35:49 AM

Gojira, ask yourself this question:

Does Majin Buu think?

Because it does not think. It just does.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36489: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:37:35 AM

@IANCE, serious question, do you have to italicize so much? It makes basically everything you post come off as oddly intense.

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#36490: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:45:58 AM

So tropers, you have been given the opportunity to adapt Dragon Ball in video game, novel or comic book format. The catch is that you cannot do it with Dragon Ball characters and are discouraged from using too much iconic scenery from the setting, notable locations or plot elements such as the dragon balls themselves. Basically, the marketing team wants Dragon Ball but isn't quite ready to pay for the rights to it yet. It wants you something with similar action scenes, comedy and drama with the serial numbers filed off. How do you go about it?

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#36491: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:46:10 AM

I'm deliberately imitating Frank Miller's nonsensical emphasis. It helps to emphasize the point when people are ignoring it, if you catch my drift.

[up]Expies, expies everywhere.

I don't need Goku. I just need a Blood Knight with Spiky Hair. The world of Dragon Ball doesn't really have any major locations that people recognize that can't be easily reconstructed with the serial numbers filled off. There aren't very many unique environments.

It's rather easy to make an homage slash ripoff of Dragon Ball, because even when it's not something that people consider iconic of Dragon Ball, it is popular enough that it's easily recognizable, even if you give it a new paintjob.

edited 26th Mar '16 11:48:52 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#36492: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:47:28 AM

Here's the thing, every living thing thinks on some level, it's just that since we always use our "intelligence" as a point of reference, most people don't think that animals are capable of rational thought; they are, we're just too blinded by our egos to see it.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36493: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:51:43 AM

I'm pretty sure that's true. I'm also pretty sure most people would be willing to admit a lot of animals think, even if they don't necessarily think the same way we do or on the same level or whatever. But then when you get to things like insects, or better yet, things like sponges that don't even have brains or nervous systems saying they're "thinking" is basically rendering the word meaningless.

And that's not even getting to living things besides animals.

edited 26th Mar '16 11:52:29 AM by LSBK

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#36494: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:52:05 AM

And that's not what sapience means.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36495: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:53:28 AM

Sapience is a term we basically apply only to ourselves and has no clear meaning other than "thing that distinguishes us from all other life even if we can't explain exactly how".

When you get down to it, it's a pretty useless term.

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#36496: Mar 26th 2016 at 11:57:15 AM

Sapience means great wisdom and judgement that human beings acquire over time. It is not a useless term.

Sentience means feeling as distinct from perception or thought, otherwise known as consciousness.

Technically humans are the only animals that are sapient, though there are some that have comparable levels of intelligence. And no, not all living things are sentient.

Now stop this and answer my question, I mean more of you should, thank you to the one who did.

edited 26th Mar '16 12:00:38 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#36497: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:00:16 PM

I know what the term means but humans being the "only" sapient species is a topic of much debate.

And if people can't explain why we're the only ones beyond just "we are" or "we're the smartest" then it's basically meaningless.

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#36498: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:06:30 PM

Actually pure souls looks like fluffy clouds. All I'm saying is that we never see Kami take the bodies of the falling Earth fighters despite some time passing between Vegeta's defeat and the bodies being collected. And even if those are their bodies, Piccolo should have been sent straight back to Earth when was revived like the other fighters. This happened to Piccolo in the manga, so the manga is the one not constant since the anime followed the manga in this example.

Piccolo would not be sent back to Earth when revived because he, too, had his body in the afterlife. That's why he gets to train on Kaio-sama's planet with Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu. His revival is consistent with Goku's; he loses his halo but remains on Kaio-sama's planet, where his body is, and has to be taken to Namek by a second wish to Porunga.

Yamcha, Tien, and Chiaotzu being returned to Earth is the inconsistency and it's one that only exists in the manga.

Sapience is a term we basically apply only to ourselves and has no clear meaning other than "thing that distinguishes us from all other life even if we can't explain exactly how".

When you get down to it, it's a pretty useless term.

This.

Humans put too much stock in intelligence as the only evolutionary trait that matters. We're absolutely assured of our superiority as a species because we have iPhones and stuff but can't quite hammer down a precise definition of why we're special and unique snowflakes and what specific qualities another species would have to have to be deserving of respect.

Meanwhile, crocodiles are just hanging out not changing much in millions of years and going, "Nice iPhone. You're doing a bang-up job making the planet uninhabitable for yourselves. Check back with me in a billion years if you're still around, and then we can talk about how you won at evolution and are the best species ever to exist."

edited 26th Mar '16 12:07:42 PM by TobiasDrake

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#36499: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:07:05 PM

Because other animals do not acquire their wisdom and judgment in the same manner as people do. That's why orca whales, orangutans, Ravens and Crows, ect are not considered sapient, even though they are intelligent. It applies to homo sapiens.

Now I don't know the exact term for it, but there is a such thing as hive intelligence, and it something we most definitely do not have. Does that mean termites and bees are the most "intelligent" form of life? No, it means they think in ways others don't.

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#36500: Mar 26th 2016 at 12:35:48 PM

Well, for one, we're the only species that gets more intelligent as we grow from childhood to adulthood. On the one hand, this means our babies are worthless little sacks of shit compared to other animals that can walk while still soaked from womb fluid. On the other, it means our adults are smart as shit for figuring out puzzles and such.

To clarify: other species gain knowledge about the world and maturity as they get older, but Humans are the only species where our brain actually changes and becomes more powerful with age, until a bit past adulthood.


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