So we've come to the conclusion that dragons kidnap princesses because of their opposable thumbs.
Also, when people do the whole "the dog is the superior species, having the man-animal shepherded around" thing, I will promptly ask if those people consider their toys to be superior beings.
Because that's what pets are to us, in the end. They're toys, they're there to amuse us.
I, Humanity, grabbed a vicious monster willing to rip your face off and feast on your entrails and turned it into a pink, fluffy toy, because It Amused Me.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariI mean, I'm doubtful of the idea that humans are awesome.
Like. We're kinda fucking over everything on the planet (including ourselves) a lot. All for minor short term gains.
That shows power, but it also shows stupidity.
Just look at Universe 6.
We fucked ourselves over, and the universe is better without us.
edited 19th Mar '16 2:37:20 PM by unnoun
On the other hand, we invented time travel, in a way that the goddess of time didn't even think was possible. Even if we fuck up the world irreparably, we can just use the Time Machine to go invade some other Earth.
himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimariWell it's not true time travel either, since a) time travel is actually physically impossible unless you travel through space as well, and b) they never went backwards within their own timeline, they either went backwards across timelines, or they just caused the timeline to split, which doesn't actually fix any problems with your own timeline, unless you're Whis who can rewind time for the entire universe.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!IRL and Universe 6.
And even the time travel is less something "we" did and more something Bulma did.
And the Goddess of Time is doing things to prevent time travel and prevent further splitting of timelines.
If we tried to invade some other Earth we'd find Dumplin waiting for us.
And, again, fucking over some other world is another example of that "short term gain, long term stupidity" problem.
Not fucking over the Earth we've got is a better solution overall. For ourselves and all other Earths.
edited 19th Mar '16 3:53:28 PM by unnoun
I think you're in the wrong thread, friend. The threads you're looking for are Gurren Lagann and Attack on Titan.
edited 19th Mar '16 4:12:50 PM by Soble
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!Yeah, 'round here, in Dragon Ball, Humans are doomed to obscurity by their Saiyan overlords.
I mean.
If not for humans, Saiyans wouldn't be as strong as they are?
Like.
Who Goku is, and the kind of fighter he is depends a lot on what he learned on Earth.
Kakarot started off as a low class Saiyan, and if he was kept in Saiyan culture that's probably all he would have been. Because that's what Saiyans seemed to believe.
Vegeta would never have gotten as strong as he does without Bulma's gravity chamber.
So.
I mean. It seems Cabba can't go Super Saiyan?
edited 19th Mar '16 4:43:58 PM by unnoun
Saiyans don't have tails in Universe 6; they apparently evolved the transformation out of their genome. No idea if they actually don't have Super Saiyan though; remember that the form itself was nothing but a legend before Goku ascended against Frieza. It's entirely possible that the Saiyans in Universe 6 just never met the requirements to actually receive the form.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!![]()
But the people Goku knows and the attitude of surpassing his limits and learning more and more about martial arts is more important than that.
The very concept of a low class Saiyan rivaling an Elite is something Vegeta considers impossible, but, as a result of Goku's willingness to train to surpass himself, with Roshi, and Korin, and Kami and King Kai, he's able to hold his own against Vegeta, and his friends are able to get Vegeta to go away.
And the next time they meet, Goku's trained and Vegeta hasn't. And Goku's way above Vegeta.
edited 19th Mar '16 5:06:14 PM by unnoun
...Super has officially rendered me flaccid.
It'd be so easy to just have the Saiyans wrap their tails around themselves like belts if you don't want to draw tails in motion. Why does this sequel series hate me so much?
I'M MR. MEESEEKS, LOOK AT ME!Apparently they just never really had a need for the Great Ape form at all, so it just kind of left their genetic code after numerous generations.
Also, unrelated, but the Transformation page on the Dragon Ball Wiki, while it mentions all the Saiyan transformations that have shown up in the entire franchise, it ultimately breaks it down into seven groups, based on chronological order; Great Ape, Super Saiyan, Super Saiyan 2, Super Saiyan 3, Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan God SS, and Super Saiyan 4. It makes me realize that there's technically seven main transformations for Saiyans in this franchise.
Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!What is it with the Dragon Ball Z characters and combining with each other?
Come on! Let's bless them all until we get fershnickered!

A discussion about real-world biology in a thread about Dragon Ball, where biology is horseshit. Never thought I'd see the day.