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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#35751: Mar 12th 2016 at 4:16:53 PM

On the voice acting, I personally love Linda Young and thought she was a great Frieza. I'm saddened she can't reprise her role, but it's because she can't do it anymore and I can live with that. Ayres, I personally thought he was okay in Kai. He wasn't bad, but wasn't as brilliant as some fans of the Japanese version made him out to be because he was closer to Frieza's Japanese actor. With that said, I thought he was brilliant in RF. He captured Frieza perfectly.

Also on Toei and them putting a Z on Dragon Ball after the 23rd tournament, it was Toriyama would recommended Z for the second anime since Z is the last letter of the alphabet and he thought Dragon Ball would be ending soon. So Toei didn't pull it out of their butts.

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#35752: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:24:52 PM

Ayres is superior to Young in every Freeza-related tangent but nostalgia.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35753: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:31:10 PM

Well, well, well. Shots fired, imagine that.

Let's discuss the purely objective points of good voice-acting and what not.

[up][up]I was never sure about this, but I always thought it was called Dragonball Kai. In the states we called it Dragonball Z Kai, which always seemed a little redundant.

edited 12th Mar '16 5:44:45 PM by Soble

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Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#35754: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:32:57 PM

I didn't grow up with the FU Nimation dub, and I found the general quality of that one quite bland, compared to Kai's. And Young... come on, if you want your planet broker to sound like a cranky library lady...

edited 12th Mar '16 5:34:12 PM by Eriorguez

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#35755: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:35:09 PM

That's like, you're opinion man.

But Objectively Young is the best Dub Freeza.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35756: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:35:13 PM

At point in favor of the Kai dub is that you can more clearly tell that Frieza is supposed to actually be a guy. I remember going back and forth between that when I was a kid and I know a lot of other people did too.

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#35757: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:36:25 PM

I grew up on the dub and Young is fucking awful

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#35758: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:37:36 PM

I grew up on Young so she sounded fine to me, but Chris is good. I basically have no preference between the 2.

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#35759: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:41:17 PM

I started with the manga and Young is so far away from what I imagined Freeza's voice to be it's laughable. Aryes is WAY closer.

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35760: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:43:41 PM

And Young... come on, if you want your planet broker to sound like a cranky library lady...

Frieza is a cranky library lady when you get right down to it. Wears lipstick, has plenty of wrinkles, calm so long as you follow his rules, but turns into a horned monster that will spill the blood of countless innocents if you don't return his things.

At point in favor of the Kai dub is that you can more clearly tell that Frieza is supposed to actually be a guy. I remember going back and forth between that when I was a kid and I know a lot of other people did too.

I'll own up to that.

Combined with my poor understanding of Light Is Not Good, purple being a shade away from pink, the girliest color ever, the lipstick, and Frieza lacking genitalia, Frieza being a guy was a momentous revelation.

edited 12th Mar '16 5:53:00 PM by Soble

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#35761: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:47:08 PM

Guys, you're all wrong.

LittleKuriboh is clearly the best Freeza.

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#35762: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:49:04 PM

My optimum Freeza voice is probably somewhere between Aryes, Little Kuriboh, and my impersonation of the two.

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#35763: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:55:33 PM

I grew up with the Funi dub, but it isn't really nostalgia that I like Young more since I watched both Z and Kai. As I said, I just found Ayres to be okay in Kai, but great in RF so I am not bias. Also, opinions. Getting on a chair and shouting, 'Young sucks!' or 'how can you possibly like Young more than Ayres!' or dismissing the preference as just nostalgia, isn't going to change people's minds, and makes you rather childish.

For example, if a fan came in here in said Masako Nozawa is terrible at playing Goku because she makes him sound like a raspy old woman, and Sean is much closer to the way Goku should sound or 'Nozawa sucks!'. I don't think you will take it too well.

Also, I never thought Frieza was woman. I didn't think he was a man either. I thought he was supposed to be a non-gender.

edited 12th Mar '16 6:02:34 PM by Ramona122003

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#35764: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:58:30 PM

I don't really care. I didn't have a problem with either.

Frieza was a muderous asshole in either version who deserved to get beat up.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35765: Mar 12th 2016 at 5:58:58 PM

[up][up]I'm pretty sure a lot of people here will take that well because that seems to be the sentiment about her, in general, outside of certain Japanese-centric places.

I get you're point, though.

edited 12th Mar '16 5:59:17 PM by LSBK

Eriorguez Since: Jun, 2009
#35766: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:02:46 PM

The part I like about Masako's performanze is that it drives the point that the deity of saiyan origin, pal with gods and saviour of the universe in multiple ocasions, is still at his core just that kid from the woods.

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#35767: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:03:30 PM

To be honest, I was a bit disappointed when Dragon Ball Z Kai left out the part where Gohan had the daydream-turned-nightmare about Frieza.

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#35768: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:03:33 PM

[up][up][up] Otherwise, Frieza would be the most powerful woman in Dragonball.

edited 12th Mar '16 6:10:08 PM by Soble

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#35769: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:10:11 PM

Trust me, I know. The people on the Kanzenshuu forum despises the Western audience for disliking Nowzawa and accuse them of having no taste and being stupid. I just find it ironic that their complaints about Frieza, sounding like a raspy old woman, is almost the same complaints I have seen against Nowzawa's Goku.

I personally like Nowzawa, especially as kid Goku, but I am kind of mixed about Goku's voice never dropping and I do prefer Sean to her overall, but I have nothing but respect for the original Goku. My main complaint against Nowzawa is that I personally don't feel she should play Goku's entire family, especially Goten who is already a miniature Goku clone. Given him his own voice would had made him somewhat different. I also don't like her Bardock.

edited 12th Mar '16 6:13:42 PM by Ramona122003

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#35770: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:14:58 PM

That's why I'm perfect, because I think both of them are terrible.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#35771: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:16:33 PM

That's not the kind of third option we were all thinking of.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#35772: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:16:42 PM

I only vaguely remember Frieza's dub voice, but I can say for sure that Goku's Japanese voice is awful.

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#35773: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:18:23 PM

I might be the only one who thinks this...but I still thought the new Kai Freeza sounded like a woman.

He's not suppose to sound like one?

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#35774: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:20:12 PM

Unrelated, but since Goku's and Yamamoto's seiyuus were married, what would a fusion between their characters look like, and how OP would it be?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35775: Mar 12th 2016 at 6:20:30 PM

There's definitely still a "feminine" tone there but there was never the same confusion as with Young for me. Though, part of that could just be knowing for sure that Frieza is supposed to be male.

edited 12th Mar '16 6:22:05 PM by LSBK


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