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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34926: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:03:07 PM

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Or how about don't do any of that.

That's right. I'm being the party pooper. I'm proud of it, so go ahead and post the Guru clip.

Also, they could have just said Vegeta retained a bit of the Majin Power up, or something, and that was the source of his (uncharacteristic) rage power-up.

But they didn't, so they are as dumb as Zelenal.

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#34927: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:09:25 PM

Stacking more excuses onto the scene doesn't make it work better. It makes the shilling more obvious.

"Vegeta was able to outperform Goku because he was really angry!" is stupid. But,

"Vegeta was able to outperform Goku because he was really angry! And also he still has his Majin power boost! And he spontaneously unlocked Super Saiyan 3! Oh, and he's also been training harder than Goku somehow! Shit, what else can we throw on there?" is just desperate.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34928: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:21:18 PM

...

So doing anything with Vegeta was just a bad idea.

It's not what they did that's the problem. The very premise itself is where the flaw lies.

Makes sense.

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#34929: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:23:17 PM

More or less. At it's core, the problem is that they wanted to have a scene where violence against his Sexy Lamp pisses off Vegeta so much that he surpasses Goku.

The correct way to depict this scene would have been to draw a giant red X over it, move it off the storyboards and into the garbage can, and never touch it again.

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#34930: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:23:56 PM

Let's get real, if Yamcha went down, Puar would get a man(?)-pain power-up.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34931: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:28:33 PM

How about Vegeta goes down and Bulma gets a woman-pain powerup and kicks Beerus' ass?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34932: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:29:38 PM

Despite making even less sense than what actually happened, I'd have no problem with that.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34934: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:32:53 PM

Shame Toriyama has no interest in doing much with his female characters.

Yes, Bulma is still relevant, but Chi-chi was just him punishing himself for some strange reason (since he disliked drawing her), 18 was just a reward for Krillin, and Videl... Videl got hitched to a wagon that he pushed right off a cliff and then decided lol now you're a housewife. And she was a normal human anyway, so how far she could have gone was always limited.

I admit, I'd love Super Saiyan Bulma... I wonder if they can wish themselves into Saiyans?

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#34935: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:36:24 PM

It doesn't matter. If they made a new female character, all that'd be important is 1) who she's getting married to and 2) how much cleavage she shows.

Somehow, Vados hasn't gone into either of those yet. But she's more of a support to Champa than an actual character.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#34936: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:37:21 PM

If 18 got slapped, Krillin would get a man-pain power up and Piccolo would tell him not to bother.

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#34937: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:41:09 PM

Considering how shady Vados has been in the manga, I wouldn't throw away the idea of her being a major villain at some point. Naruto did something similar with Kaguya: include barely any female characters and absolutely no relevant ones, then have one of the biggest villains ever female.

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#34938: Mar 3rd 2016 at 3:45:42 PM

So seeing Putine and Gravy made me just now realize Demigra is named after demiglace.

Even if poutine is a dish WITH gravy rather than a TYPE of brown sauce.

edited 3rd Mar '16 3:46:25 PM by Anomalocaris20

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#34939: Mar 3rd 2016 at 4:07:20 PM

[up][up]Yes, but Naruto did that because Madara was pretty much completely invincible at that point and Kishimoto had to replace him with another villain who was infinitely less of a threat.

That's basically the same as if instead of beating Freeza, Goku and Vegeta both got killed, then Whis appeared to both of them separately, brought them back to life, gave them more power and set them off... only for a previously unmentioned character exploded out of Freeza's tummy, proving to be stronger than Freeza and then doing absolutely nothing, saying nothing, taking orders from another character that was basically nonexistent up to that point.

And then that villain despite being more powerful gets defeated by Goku and Vegeta. But not because of their own power, rather because of the power that they were given by their ancestors.

Seriously though, just because Naruto did it doesn't mean it's a good idea. In fact, it frequently means the opposite.

edited 3rd Mar '16 4:11:00 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34940: Mar 3rd 2016 at 4:41:16 PM
Thumped: Wow. That was rude. Too many of this kind of thump will bring a suspension. Please keep it civil.
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#34941: Mar 3rd 2016 at 4:46:10 PM

Well, bringing it up any chance he gets to complain is a bit annoying. As for him doing that in the Naruto thread, talking about Naruto is what it's for.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34942: Mar 3rd 2016 at 4:50:41 PM

It's just that's the only thing he ever does in the Naruto thread; complain about how terrible everything is, cycle through like six or seven characters about how terrible they are, and never actually say anything positive at all in the thread. Seriously, after the 500th complaint, it gets annoying.

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#34943: Mar 3rd 2016 at 4:52:53 PM

Well, that basically is what the Naruto thread is at this point. YMMV on how justified that is but he's not the only one doing that, he's just the most vocal about it.

edited 3rd Mar '16 4:53:22 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#34944: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:06:45 PM

Good thing that taking things personally is actually against the rules, ain't it guys?

Also funny being that I was replying to someone else who brought it up, don't you think?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34945: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:08:54 PM

I understand that, I was just commenting on his comments.

Edit: But he honestly didn't really go personal, he said he found something you do annoying. We comment on things like that all the time. Though, maybe we shouldn't.

edited 3rd Mar '16 5:09:53 PM by LSBK

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#34946: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:12:03 PM

Still criticizing me, technically still against the rules. Not that I mind all that much, but you might wanna keep it in mind for someone with thinner skin, who might actually be offended over being called a Negative Neal in an internet forum.

Also, I've actually gotten banned over stuff like that. No, really.

edited 3rd Mar '16 5:13:09 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#34947: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:12:11 PM

I wonder how strong Freeza would have been if he added Manpain to his 4 months of intense training?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#34948: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:13:29 PM

[up]Freeza can't get manpain though. You need to give a fuck about someone first.

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#34949: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:13:57 PM

Freeza's a Freaky Alien Genotype, he dosen't get manpain's. tongue

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34950: Mar 3rd 2016 at 5:23:49 PM

They reproduce asexually anyway. I don't even think they possess physical or genetic sex, the Namekians sure don't.

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