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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#34726: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:30:55 PM

Goku calling Gohan a little shit was hilarious.

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#34727: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:40:01 PM

I did find it funny in an OOC kind of way. But that isn't Goku's character. I think after the Cell Games and Gohan settling down Goku accepted and embrace what Gohan is, unlike most of the fanbase.

Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
King of Burgers
#34728: Feb 29th 2016 at 12:40:58 PM

Yeah, but not even showing up to watch was a dick move.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#34729: Feb 29th 2016 at 1:11:07 PM

Goku did not say that. That was gangstastream striking again.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#34730: Feb 29th 2016 at 1:23:24 PM

Apparently some idiots are theorizing that Broly is inside Magetta.

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
...what am I even DOING here?
#34731: Feb 29th 2016 at 1:32:41 PM

I was just going to say, don't trust the manga translation. Especially when they start swearing.

Looking this up, apparently Goku only originally says "Geez, that guy…"

In other news of 'people speculating way too much', some people seem to believe that Goku threw the match against Frost on purpose. Because Frost is a nice guy. Because THAT makes sense for Goku.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34732: Feb 29th 2016 at 1:36:02 PM

Fan speculation on most things is generally terrible.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#34733: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:02:00 PM

Well... Goku did have that earlier scene where he let himself get punched by Mr. Satan.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34734: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:11:40 PM

That was completely different.

I too, believe Goku would never throw a fight. He'd only give up if he thought there was no chance of winning (and he knew someone else could do what he couldn't).

Now, Frost did give a slight smile at the moment when Goku first got infected, but it's still up in the air if he really knew or not.

We'll know soon enough.

One Strip! One Strip!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#34735: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:17:11 PM

Yeah, Frost's grin could just have been noticing an opening or it could've been a smile at how effective his poison/pressure point was. Either way, it's not cheating if the hole in Frost's arm does end up being a retractable poisonous stinger. Jaco noticed it, whatever it was, so we'll get our answers next week.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34736: Feb 29th 2016 at 2:41:30 PM

Hmm.

I guess this will be to remind us that Frieza and Frost aren't the same.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#34737: Feb 29th 2016 at 5:48:59 PM

Thank you for clearing up Goku's statement about Gohan. I figured that was the case since fan translations are infamous for spicing up the script. I still finds his criticism of Gohan to be harsh and OOC for him, especially since Gohan's absent is work related and isn't like he blew them off for no reason.

As for Broly, I wouldn't mind him being introduce, just so Vegeta can one-shot without even trying and not even bothering transforming. He then walks away from Broly wondering who that loser was. The outcry online would be the stuff of legend and the Broly's fanboys tears will sustain me for years. (I actually don't mind Broly so much as a character, but the amount of Character Shilling he gets from the fans and the video game companies make me want bad things to happen to him and kill the myth that Broly can defeat everyone in the universe).

edited 29th Feb '16 6:01:43 PM by Ramona122003

MyssaRei Since: Feb, 2010
#34738: Feb 29th 2016 at 6:39:21 PM

By the way, about Frost's technique, I found this little and funny tidbit over at Asuki:

Not sure why you guys are surprised at Frost's ability. Did none of you play Xenoverse?

In Xenoverse, Frieza Race characters could shoot a small, quick ki arrow and if it hit, it stunned/incapacitated the enemy.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#34739: Feb 29th 2016 at 6:48:12 PM

[up]If that's how Goku lost (I don't keep up with Super) then I have no issues with it.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#34740: Feb 29th 2016 at 7:12:03 PM

And if it's part of his body, it's not really cheating.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34741: Feb 29th 2016 at 7:59:25 PM

Frieza never displayed such an ability though.

I wonder why? Maybe his mutation left him unable to do so.

Cold didn't use it either, but he may not have gotten the chance to try.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#34742: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:00:17 PM

If this stun technique is part of Frieza's race, why didn't Frieza or King Cold ever use it? I am certain if Frieza knew a stun technique he would use that instead of relying on Sorbet to shoot Goku or King Cold 'borrowing' Trunks' sword to kill him with it.

It would an interesting nod to Xenoverse if this is true, but I wouldn't used that as certain evidence, especially since no one within Frieza's race, at least in Toriyama's canon, have that kind of technique.

edited 29th Feb '16 8:01:35 PM by Ramona122003

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#34743: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:03:43 PM

It's not like we've seen a lot of Frieza's race to begin with. Saying "Frieza or Cold didn't do this" doesn't really mean a lot, especially given the circumstances.

Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#34744: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:09:14 PM

Well, I just brought it up since Frieza having a stun technique would have done him a world of good in his rematched against Goku. He had no problem playing dirty. And Frieza has shown to be more capable than Frost in many ways after his revival, mostly because he really wanted to kill Goku.

And Dragon Ball video games are known for making stuff up too.

edited 29th Feb '16 8:10:03 PM by Ramona122003

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#34745: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:17:18 PM

Outside of canonizing Bardock, Toriyama doesn't really go for non-canon stuff though.

Given the chance to use anything Toei comes up with, or his own stuff, he always just does his own thing, so it's doubtful he's using something from the games...

Wait. How much involvement does he have in Super again? I keep forgetting.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#34746: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:20:45 PM

So is Frost wearing armor in his first form or is it part of his body?

My various fanfics.
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#34747: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:23:32 PM

He did a story board for Universe Six while TOEI was wasting everyone's time redoing Battle Of Gods and Revival Of Ffor no good reason and apparently has a hand in writing the manga.

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Ramona122003 Since: Jan, 2001
#34748: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:34:06 PM

The only thing we know is that he did the storyboard and character designs for U6. His involvement with the manga is questionable, but if it is anything like Resurrection 'F', he had no involvement in it and the manga is just adapting the story script and adding its own flares. If you read the Resurrection 'F' manga there are subtile differences between it and the movie, and the movie is much closer to Toriyama's original script.

As for TOEI adapting the movies, I honestly think they did it because they are aware that their target audience for Super, which is mostly children, most likely never saw the movies and didn't want them to feel like they've been locked out. It is frustrating for those who saw the movie, but I understand why they did it.

edited 29th Feb '16 9:02:01 PM by Ramona122003

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
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#34750: Feb 29th 2016 at 8:43:47 PM

So show the movies in the "Super" time slot, cut for television. Problem solved! You've got basically everything in between the two films and between the defeat of the small Buu and first to do anything until Toriyama's done with the content that actually moves the plot forward. So go episodic and treat the movies like big specials and just reuse them. Or work them in some other way. I'd like to think the people who do this kind of thing for a living and supposedly take pride in their work could come up with an infinite amount of better ideas but apparently not.

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