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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3426: Sep 21st 2013 at 2:48:15 PM

Did Yamcha experience the Worf Effect? I don't think he did and if he did it was probably in early Dragon Ball.

He always kinda sucked except in the beginning maybe.

Vegeta's the one who gets hit with the Worf Effect hard and repeatedly.

edited 21st Sep '13 3:01:59 PM by MadSkillz

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3427: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:40:44 PM

I don't think the treatment of characters are as bad as a lot of people say. The humans especially.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3428: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:41:39 PM

Remember Launch.

She sure did stuff, right?

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3430: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:48:28 PM

Just an example of a human being treated badly.tongue

I agree with what you said for the most part though.

edited 21st Sep '13 3:49:07 PM by MadSkillz

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3431: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:54:52 PM

That's not being treated badly at all. She was never introduced as being more important than she turned out to be, and was never played up as having a bigger role than what she got.

edited 21st Sep '13 3:55:39 PM by Saiga

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3432: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:55:17 PM

She got forgot about.tongue

That's sort of being treated badly.evil grin

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3433: Sep 21st 2013 at 3:56:59 PM

No, she wasn't. If Toriyama forgot about her, than it was in the Android arc only, because he clearly accounted for her in the Saiyan and Namek arcs, and planned to show a cameo of her in the Boo arc - but he was worried fans wouldn't remember her as it had been so long and swapped her out for 17. That's probably what everyone misinterprets as Toriyama forgetting her.

edited 21st Sep '13 3:57:27 PM by Saiga

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3434: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:00:15 PM

I for sure thought I read somewhere that Toriyama stated that he forgot about her after the Piccolo Jr. arc.

But that might have been one of those statements fans like to think that Akira allegedly said.

I bow to my Dragon Ball superior.tongue

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3435: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:03:59 PM

He mentions her at the start of the Saiyan arc (Krillin says she ran off to pursue Tenshinhan, during the Namek arc era he drew a page of what everyone was doing around the Freeza-Namek battle. She was still chasing down Tenshinhan, not aware that he was dead and on Kaio's planet, safe from her lusty claws.

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#3436: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:30:41 PM

Weren't all of Launch's appearances in DBZ filler for the anime though, as well as the mentions?

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3437: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:47:13 PM

Appearances, yes, mentions no. And the page Toriyama did showing her in the Namek arc was an omake, it just shows that he hadn't forgotten her at the time.

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3438: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:54:35 PM

Rather than being the pope of the Bleach thread it seems to me you're more like the pope of this thread.tongue

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#3439: Sep 21st 2013 at 4:59:56 PM

If only that could fit in my title...

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3440: Sep 21st 2013 at 5:02:01 PM

Look at my title, Saiga.

You could do it like that.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#3442: Sep 21st 2013 at 7:39:53 PM

I don't think the treatment of characters are as bad as a lot of people say. The humans especially.

Maybe not by the author, as you have just proven with Launch (I didn't know he actually referenced her in the manga), but the fandom... oh this fandom.

They are the ones who gleefully jump on any opportunity to stomp a character into the ground. You know who I'm talking about.

Of course, 9 times out of 10 it's Actually Pretty Funny, but still.

I believe that Toriyama should have changed things up a bit. Don't have the same guy always losing in the same way.

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3443: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:07:00 PM

Who, pray tell, would you be speaking about? waii

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#3444: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:20:30 PM

[up]

You know who dammit!!!

You all know who!!!

One Strip! One Strip!
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3445: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:32:44 PM

I'm afraid I don't. What is their name? waii

edited 21st Sep '13 8:32:53 PM by Anomalocaris20

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
Arashi Shigehito
#3446: Sep 21st 2013 at 8:54:00 PM

I'm thinking Yamcha or Raditz.

Let's see if you can get past my Beelzemon. Mephiles, WARP SHINKA!
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#3448: Sep 21st 2013 at 9:47:35 PM

...What is that? I've never heard of a "Yamcha".

You cannot firmly grasp the true form of Squidward's technique!
MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
#3449: Sep 21st 2013 at 9:56:10 PM

[up][up] OMG, thank you. I hate this fandom so much even more than Bronies and Sonic fans sometimes, because of their constant character bashing. Even on this wiki with the examples, I had to rewrite a lot of them because some of them came off as complaining. I'm not a big fan of Yamcha, but I don't think the writer liked him that much, but I think that Yamcha got the worst treatment out of all the characters.

edited 21st Sep '13 10:10:06 PM by MsCC93

MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3450: Sep 21st 2013 at 10:10:09 PM

Yamcha's like a named fodder.

He doesn't matter.

edited 21st Sep '13 10:10:34 PM by MadSkillz


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