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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34026: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:01:54 AM

Goku needs to team up with Goku so that way Goku and Goku can go and beat Raditz.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34027: Feb 10th 2016 at 6:57:51 AM

Beerus and Uub.

Gohan, survival, fatherhood and the Earth.

So I think this author's work is beautiful, I've linked them before.

edited 10th Feb '16 8:04:56 AM by unnoun

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#34028: Feb 10th 2016 at 8:10:33 AM

That backstory makes sense as something that came from the original script, since in that version Beerus was responsible for infecting the originally pure-hearted Saiyans with evil and the whole plot was more clearly good vs evil.

Wow, I'm glad they changed that. Beerus has done way too much stuff anyway.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#34029: Feb 10th 2016 at 8:11:34 AM

I actually find that more acceptable than Beerus telling Freeza to destroy the race.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34030: Feb 10th 2016 at 8:20:03 AM

It depends on how old you think Beerus is and what you think being a "God" means.

Is he "just" really good at destroying things, or does he embody destruction? Can things be destroyed without him?

It depends on your interpretation.

And straightforward good and evil are boring concepts.

edited 10th Feb '16 8:33:52 AM by unnoun

Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#34031: Feb 10th 2016 at 9:08:30 AM

Well actually Birusu would have been named as such because the original name pun was virus; Beerus would have been a lizard man, Goku's friends and family would have gotten corrupted, and Goku would have ultimately learned what it means to actually be a "hero".

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Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#34032: Feb 10th 2016 at 9:25:17 AM

Also Super Saiyan God or the equivalent would have had Goku spontaneously grow a cape.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34033: Feb 10th 2016 at 10:30:01 AM

All of which sounds dumb and boring.

No, I like the movie we got better. Where Goku is selfish, Vegeta is selfless, and the Destroyer isn't so bad.

Another fanfic about dads.

Seriously I love this person's prose style and the introspective stuff. Like, I wouldn't call it "canon" if I was inclined to use that word, but it's still a beautiful interpretation.

Gohan and Tien.

A wedding, and Gohan talking about Cell.

I feel bad for Supreme Kai.

Digging.

Protective Super Saiyan.

edited 10th Feb '16 11:59:20 AM by unnoun

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34034: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:23:01 PM

I can kinda understand why Goku was pissed that he had to resort to his friends giving him their power to become a Super Saiyan God would be selfish, but wouldn't the fact that he went through with it anyways to save the world make it a bit more selfless?

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#34036: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:34:58 PM

Christ, Goku looks a bit derpy in those shots.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34037: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:36:06 PM

So Super's past the Revival of F recaps and it still sucks a little (albeit less).

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#34038: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:36:10 PM

I don't think Toriyama cares much about the epilogue. Even if he does, I know without a doubt that Toei doesn't give two shits about creating plot holes.

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#34039: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:39:36 PM

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Not yet, it's only just started. Let us wait until the end of the arc first.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34040: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:40:31 PM

Coward.

Dork family.

edited 10th Feb '16 1:42:13 PM by unnoun

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#34041: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:45:08 PM

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Yes I am, thank you for noticing.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34042: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:45:38 PM

...I ship this now.

I am also trash.

edited 10th Feb '16 1:46:00 PM by unnoun

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#34043: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:47:51 PM

Was it ever clarified why Dragonball, the anime, was called "Z"?

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#34044: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:48:37 PM

Because Toriyama wanted to end it, I think.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#34045: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:50:13 PM

I honestly can't tell anymore which of them is more evil.

I'm not even entirely sure which of them was more evil to start with.

edited 10th Feb '16 1:50:35 PM by unnoun

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#34046: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:55:44 PM

[up][up] Would've been better if I'd asked for some kind of official statement.

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#34047: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:59:26 PM

I am terrible. Those fanfics are beautiful, but I keep thinking "they're using dub terms".

Like, Cell saying "yet another fighter you could have saved" is just so different to the Japanese and it's not even what the scene is supposed to be about.

But I'll stop. I can't blame them.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#34048: Feb 10th 2016 at 1:59:51 PM

I can't remember the site that said it (it was whatever one dispelled the rumors that Freeza and Cell were supposed to be the final sagas), but it mentioned how they added Z into the anime title because Toriyama was getting ready to end it or something.

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#34049: Feb 10th 2016 at 2:05:16 PM

To my knowledge, that's accurate. The anime was labelled Z because the Saiyans were to be the final arc. The anime showrunners wanted to change up the name to indicate how the show has evolved, so with Z being the final letter of the alphabet, Toriyama picked it to indicate that this was the final arc.

Incidentally, so was Frieza. And Cell. And Buu. Also Piccolo Daimao. And Pilaf! There were many times where Toriyama considered ending it, only to be foiled by Toriyama going, "Hey, you know what would be cool?" and doing some more stuff. That's just the kind of writer he is.

Toriyama would go back to this well later in the manga with the Z Sword, once again labelled Z for no other reason than to indicate that this is the end.

edited 10th Feb '16 2:07:47 PM by TobiasDrake

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#34050: Feb 10th 2016 at 2:07:54 PM

More or less, Toriyama has been trying to end it from the beginning, but every time he thought tried to get out, he was thinking "wait, how about we do this?".

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