TVTropes Now available in the app store!
Open

Follow TV Tropes

Following

Dragon Ball

Go To

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#33951: Feb 8th 2016 at 4:14:35 PM

And Dende.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#33952: Feb 8th 2016 at 4:17:53 PM

I don't recall Dende being able to sense Beerus and Whis in the movie.

Let the joy of love give you an answer! Check out my book!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#33953: Feb 8th 2016 at 4:22:56 PM

He can sense them in Super.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33954: Feb 8th 2016 at 4:45:36 PM

...Maybe it's possible to have a mix of godly ki and non-godly ki?

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33955: Feb 8th 2016 at 4:48:21 PM

Dende did in fact sense Godly Ki.

He was freaking out because he could sense Beerus' Ki, and Piccolo noticed this.

One Strip! One Strip!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33956: Feb 8th 2016 at 4:52:15 PM

I guess since Piccolo couldn't sense it whatever godly ki the Guardian of Earth job gives you didn't transfer when he fused with Kami.

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
(•̀⤙•́)
#33957: Feb 8th 2016 at 5:16:32 PM

Kaioshin's power seemed to be able to be sensed but only in short ranges. Goku got an impression of his power when he shook his hand and Piccolo did when he forfeited, but everyone else was clueless. Goku even had to check what he'd sensed with Piccolo after his forfeiture.

My Tumblr. Currently side-by-side liveblogging Digimon Adventure, sub vs dub.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33958: Feb 8th 2016 at 5:17:48 PM

What I find interesting about that scene was that Piccolo seemed to be under the impression that even Grand Kai would be stronger than him, let alone Supreme.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33959: Feb 8th 2016 at 5:30:02 PM

[up][up]The Kaioshin has had like five million years to learn how to control his ki. He didn't have anything better to do with his time. So he probably knows how to let himself only be felt by certain individuals.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33960: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:03:26 PM

Looking back, it seems like he let Piccolo get a real sense of his power because Piccolo was already starting to catch on anyway, so he saw no point in hiding it from him. Plus, getting to him early kept him from giving things away too soon.

One Strip! One Strip!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33961: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:10:11 PM

When people who can sense ki are around Beerus they can still tell he's super strong.

Like, they can't "sense" him in the sense of being able to quantify it or pinpoint it but.

It's definitely a different situation from the androids.

With the androids it's like there's nothing there, with Beerus it's like trying to look at a supernova.

edited 8th Feb '16 6:12:13 PM by unnoun

IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#33962: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:25:10 PM

There isn't any proof Kaio or Kaioshin can be sensed. I mean, Kibito senses East Kaioshin, but only Kibito. And as said, Goku could simply be locking on to Bubbles The Monkey for instant transmission. Bubbles was, at the very least, stronger than Goku was when Goku fought his brother. And that's pretty strong, like dust the moon strong.

Buldogue's lawyer
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#33963: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:27:48 PM

...Bubbles can blow up the moon.

...Oh man you're right Bubbles can blow up the moon.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33964: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:36:13 PM

Well, unless Bubbles knows how to throw a ki blast, I'd say he probably can't blow up the moon, 'cuz, you know, they can't punch as hard as their ki blasts explode.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33965: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:36:19 PM

I still want to know what Kibito is. He's too strong to be a regular-fruit Shin-jin but too weak to be a golden-fruit one.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#33966: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:55:38 PM

[up][up] Not to mention the lighter gravity means it would be harder for Bubbles to throw a punch and thus weaken it's impact on the surface.

...That's how that works, right?

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33967: Feb 8th 2016 at 6:58:06 PM

Just an abnormally strong regular kai.

Like Freeza is an abnormally strong member of his race (though that's due to a mutation IINM), Gohan is an abnormally strong hybrid and Piccolo is an abnormally strong Namekian.

[up]Nah, since he's used to moving on a hundred G, he'd probably wind up jumping off the moon the first time he tried to take a step.

edited 8th Feb '16 6:59:01 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#33968: Feb 8th 2016 at 7:26:01 PM

In regards to still being able to sense the power of Gods like Beerus, re-call that during their sparing match, Goku instinctively dodged at one point, despite still being unable to get a bead on him, because his instincts screen at him holy shit! Avoid that!

I'm not even sure if he was sure what he was dodging since I'd need to re-watch the episode, but that's what a lifetime of combat experience will do, even if it doesn't compare to what Beerus is capable of.

One Strip! One Strip!
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33969: Feb 8th 2016 at 7:35:02 PM

Wait, Bubbles > Raditz? How the Hell'd I miss that?

IndirectActiveTransport plays capoeira from Chicago (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Every rose has its thorn
plays capoeira
#33970: Feb 8th 2016 at 7:43:49 PM

I'm not sure if Bubbles>Raditz.

What I am sure of is Master Roshi<Daimo Piccolo<God\Kami<Piccolo Jr<Goku when he fought Raditz<Bubbles The Monkey. So Bubbles should have a large enough KI to dust the moon. I can buy Goku locking onto such a KI when it's in a position to watch over his part of space anyway.

Buldogue's lawyer
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33971: Feb 8th 2016 at 7:55:13 PM

You can argue about Goku locking onto Bubbles all you like, but in the end, he actually locked onto King Kai.

Because King Kai is a Kai, not a God. Beerus is a God, not a Kai. You can presumably be a Kai and a God at the same time, but being a Kai won't make you a God and being a God won't make you a Kai.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#33972: Feb 8th 2016 at 7:58:29 PM

Why was King Kai able to sense Beerus, then?

what do you mean I didn't win, I ate more wet t-shirts than anyone else
IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33973: Feb 8th 2016 at 8:13:09 PM

Presumably they either learned to do it or just have the inborn capacity to feel Godly ki. They're Kais, it's not like it'd be that big of a stretch for them to be able to feel Godly Ki without being Gods themselves.

The difference between the Kais and Beerus and Whis is fairly noticeable even when you compare lifespans.

After all, while both Beerus and the Elder Supreme Kai are TimeAbysses, Elder Supreme Kai said he didn't have much of a lifespan left while Beerus and Whis seem to still be in the prime of their lives, even though they're both at the very least something like 75 million years old.

edited 8th Feb '16 8:16:07 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#33974: Feb 8th 2016 at 8:29:38 PM

Ever since it was introduced, I've been wondering what having god-powers even means for the Saiyans and Freeza besides the ability to beat up other characters with god-level strength and being blue (or gold, in Freeza's case). They were already way stronger than the Supreme God of the Universe before Beerus even showed up, and they could already do pretty much everything Beerus is shown doing - just with far less strength behind it.

Does having enough god-ki given them longer lifespans like Beerus and Whis have? Reality warping abilities like Whis? The ability to travel between the dimensions? Or any of the other random but cool secondary abilities they sometimes show? It'd be cool to see them get some periphery boons from the power-up.

Well, unless Bubbles knows how to throw a ki blast, I'd say he probably can't blow up the moon, 'cuz, you know, they can't punch as hard as their ki blasts explode.

He attacks by flinging ki-charged poo powerful enough to destroy moons.

Cause, you know, gorilla.

edited 8th Feb '16 8:37:00 PM by KnownUnknown

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33975: Feb 8th 2016 at 8:41:55 PM

I can imagine Vegeta being told that all he has to look forward to is a couple hundred million years of life where the only person who can give him a decent challenge is Goku.

That'd be hilarious.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari

Total posts: 130,800
Top