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#33651: Feb 2nd 2016 at 11:46:19 AM

Wasn't cyber-Freeza stronger than regular Freeza? I remember something to that effect.

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#33652: Feb 2nd 2016 at 11:49:07 AM

Yes.

Yes he was.

For all the good it did him.

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#33653: Feb 2nd 2016 at 11:54:28 AM

IIRC, it's subject to debate.

Vegeta says he's stronger than he was on Namek, but the accuracy of this statement is unclear because Vegeta died almost immediately after Frieza transformed, long before he even started using 50% of his power.

But Vegeta did come back to life in time to catch a glimpse of Super Saiyan Goku fighting Full Power Frieza, so he might actually have a clear impression of how powerful Frieza can be. Then again, he wasn't there for very long and was busy trying to reach Porunga and get his immortality.

So yes, according to Vegeta, Frieza is stronger. It's just that Vegeta's ability to accurately make that judgment is arguable.

edited 2nd Feb '16 11:54:42 AM by TobiasDrake

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#33654: Feb 2nd 2016 at 12:16:03 PM

He didn't see Super Saiyan Goku in the manga, though I don't remember the exact circumstances. Besides, I remember Freeza himself saying that his cyborg form was stronger while coming to Earth.

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#33655: Feb 2nd 2016 at 12:18:13 PM

Not strong enough to withstand Trunks, evidently.

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#33656: Feb 2nd 2016 at 12:57:10 PM

No, see, Frieza never cleans his room, so one day Cold had to go in and clean it while Frieza was asleep. That kicked up a lot of dust, and some of it got on Frieza and made him sneeze.

That's how it happened.

Anyway, assuming Frieza is 60 million at rest and 120 at full power, I assume Cold is around 50-55 at rest and 100-110 at full power. Weaker than Frieza, but not a laughably insurmountable amount.

edited 2nd Feb '16 12:58:50 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#33657: Feb 2nd 2016 at 12:57:51 PM

Yep, that's it. That's what happened.

Headcanon accepted.

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#33658: Feb 2nd 2016 at 12:59:34 PM

For some reason Frieza is really fond of that story and likes to bring it up to people he's locked in deadly combat with.

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#33659: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:17:02 PM

I think Freeza's insurmountably stronger than King Cold, though not by a laughable amount. I think King Cold's full Power Level is 85,000,000.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#33660: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:18:47 PM

Mecha Frieza seemed to be at 50% power as he wasn't roided out, so my guess is something like 100% regular Frieza > 50% Mecha Frieza > 50% regular Frieza.

edited 2nd Feb '16 3:18:55 PM by HamburgerTime

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#33661: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:26:04 PM

What would roided Mecha Freeza even look like? Weirdly lopsided and top-heavy?

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#33662: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:28:25 PM

We see it in the anime, actually.

He still worfs.

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#33664: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:35:04 PM

Granted, since SS Trunks was said to be of similar power to SS Goku, Mecha Frieza could still be stronger than 100% Frieza, given that there's still a huge ~30,000,000 gap there.

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#33666: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:40:04 PM

About a 5, maybe. Maybe even 6.

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#33667: Feb 2nd 2016 at 3:50:31 PM

Golden Freeza's approximately a 7.5-8 on the same scale where SSG Goku is a 6, Beerus is a 10, and Whis is a 15. Personally, I just transfer those numbers to trillions for Power Levels and put Golden Freeza at 7,500,000,000,000-8,000,000,000,000.

Also, I just watched the fight. Unless it was in the Japanese version, Freeza does not, in fact, power up to 100% against Trunks.

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#33668: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:25:43 PM

Golden Freezer is 100 Quintillion. He's a nice guy after all. tongue

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#33669: Feb 2nd 2016 at 5:28:01 PM

I know that's a pun but what's the original Japanese phrasing?

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#33670: Feb 2nd 2016 at 6:48:14 PM

I like the idea that Mecha Freezer was stronger than fleshy Freezer and that dad's power level was surpassed as a result of it.

Of course I also like the idea that Freeza was being a bad boy so his mom and dad teamed up to discipline him. I used to imagine it as Freeza blowing up his school after getting an F on his report card but now I imagine it as Freeza picking a fight with Beerus or Majin Buu, which lead to mommy and daddy kicking his ass to save his life.

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#33671: Feb 2nd 2016 at 7:01:11 PM

Majin Buu would be impossible. He's been gone for five million years and only just woke up after Freeza was dead.

And picking a fight with Beerus would've resulted in Beerus probably yawning and sleeping while Freeza impotently tries to make him even feel the hits.

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#33672: Feb 2nd 2016 at 9:30:57 PM

Never change, Dragonball Heroes.

"Mildly Agitated" Golden Frieza.

"Irritable" Golden Frieza.

"Moderately Displeased" Golden Frieza.

edited 2nd Feb '16 9:31:05 PM by Soble

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33673: Feb 2nd 2016 at 11:10:54 PM

I mentioned that many pages ago.

Plus, the new big thing is Full Power Super Saiyan 4.

A form so powerful, it rips the skin of it's wielder.

TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#33674: Feb 2nd 2016 at 11:14:01 PM

Regular Genocide wasn't enough, so Broly ascended his attack to become GIGANTIC GENOCIDE.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33675: Feb 2nd 2016 at 11:20:31 PM

Ya know, I find it funny how Dimps is trying so hard not to go beyond SSJ4/SSJB, but that new Broly form is kinda pushing it.


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