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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#33001: Jan 18th 2016 at 7:57:24 AM

I dunno, I got nothing.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33002: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:18:42 AM

DBS Chapter 8 came out, so be weary of spoilers.

Buu is cut from the team, Goku barely passed the test, Cabba acts the opposite of a normal Saiyan, and the first fight is Goku vs Botamo.

edited 18th Jan '16 8:21:33 AM by Rinsankajugin

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#33003: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:24:48 AM

[up] Gohan as the new 5th member imminent?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33004: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:27:03 AM

They haven't chose a new member yet, but he's the best choice they can get so probably.

Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33005: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:42:04 AM

So Buu is officially dumber than Goku?

edited 18th Jan '16 8:42:23 AM by Cortez

Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33006: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:42:34 AM

Gohan being conspicuously absent so he can pull a Goku later on and show up at the last second with a major level increase in badass and save the day would pretty much be the best thing.

And it does make hilarious sense that Vegeta's suggested written qualifying test would be something Buu wouldn't be able to pass, nevermind Goku barely passing.

edited 18th Jan '16 8:43:29 AM by Cronosonic

LordofLore Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Consider his love an honor
Cronosonic (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33008: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:48:20 AM

A game focused entirely around fusions? You know what, I'm totally down for that. The designers must be having one hell of a time thinking up every insane combination possible. I bet they have an entire chart for fusions.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33009: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:52:39 AM

A game focused entirely around fusions? You know what, I'm totally down for that.

THIS!

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33010: Jan 18th 2016 at 8:57:37 AM

This actually sounds awesome, but what kind of story would such an RPG have?

This sounds like the ultimate what-if, even moreso than DBH!

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#33011: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:02:09 AM

Color me intrigued. Not getting my hopes up after Xenoverse's awful attempts at RPG mechanics, but definitely interested.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33012: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:02:30 AM

What If? Dragon Ball games tend to be my favorites.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33013: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:05:40 AM

...

Say, if Broly and Goku fused, would Broly's half of it want to kill himself? Because, you know, now he is KAKAROTTOOOOOO 'n all...

[up][up]Honestly, they did way, WAY worse with the RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG shit that they pulled.

edited 18th Jan '16 9:06:09 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#33014: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:09:10 AM

Oh, we can have fun with this concept. Let's think of nonsensical fusions.

Hercule and Vegeta :V

Wow, I expected Buu to get beat, but damn. So yea, this is setting up for Gohan to come isn't it.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#33015: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:13:48 AM

Inb4 Buu is replaced with a lamp post, because it's still a prefferable option to Gohan.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
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#33016: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:22:55 AM

Honestly, they did way, WAY worse with the RNG on top of RNG on top of RNG shit that they pulled.

Which is one of the RPG mechanics. They basically lifted the Rare Loot system utilized by many MMORPGs to encourage you to defeat Raid Bosses over and over for that 1% chance at a useful drop.

Classic RPGs were built around pointless grinding for XP, money, and/or drop items. MMORPGs and games that boast "RPG mechanics" are an evolution of that. Xenoverse is no exception.

edited 18th Jan '16 9:26:40 AM by TobiasDrake

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33017: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:29:26 AM

Vegetto + Tiencha = Vegettiencha

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#33018: Jan 18th 2016 at 9:32:47 AM

Super Perfect Buucell (Frieza Absorbed)

edited 18th Jan '16 9:33:29 AM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33019: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:00:00 AM

Android 39 (Dr. Gero + Android 20)

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#33020: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:12:28 AM

Thing is, that's not really an "RPG" Mechanic. It's a 'Fake Longevity' mechanic. It's not even exclusive to RP Gs.

You can minimize the RNG to the places we expect it to be.

And awful drop rates are just a bad idea all around. They should be only in multiplayer games, because of trading 'n shit, they have no excuse to be in a single player game where trading economy isn't a thing. Even a coop game like Xenoverse doesn't have trading, so what the eff is up with the drop rates?

At least in mobile games with a gacha in them, you can explain it by the company being greedy assholes who want to squeeze every last coin out of the consumer's wallet, but in Xenoverse? Yeah, there ain't no explanation.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#33021: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:37:26 AM

So it seems we finally learn what the Saiyan's planet of origin was in the new manga chapter.

edited 18th Jan '16 10:58:50 AM by Cortez

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#33023: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:48:57 AM

Planet Salad... I don't know what I expected.

Also, aparently Frost is the Frieza-equivalent in Universe 6, being the EMPEROR OF THE UNIVERSE and that he's in his first form.

edited 18th Jan '16 10:50:49 AM by Rinsankajugin

TobiasDrake (•̀⤙•́) (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Arm chopping is not a love language!
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#33024: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:52:51 AM

Thing is, that's not really an "RPG" Mechanic. It's a 'Fake Longevity' mechanic. It's not even exclusive to RP Gs.

It doesn't have to be but it is. Fake Longevity is more or less the definition of "RPG mechanics". When games advertise the presence of RPG mechanics, it means they added levelling systems, inventories, equipment shops, loot drops, etc.

It means you'll be grinding XP to meet the level requirements of the next area and collecting money to buy Gold Swords and farming monsters for that Platinum Helm drop.

edited 18th Jan '16 10:53:47 AM by TobiasDrake

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#33025: Jan 18th 2016 at 10:53:02 AM

I like Xenoverse a lot, but I'm never going to arguing against the Fake Longevity being a flaw. It's just a fact that the layers of RNG are bad gameplay design for padding out playtime hours, something that was already taken care of by adding online versus battles and character customization.


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