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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32826: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:13:29 PM

I'm not sure if it would really.

But I don't really know the math, and we're never given Piccolo's power level after his trip into the room of Time and Spirit..... and I was [nja]'ed

You can only stay in the room for a maximum of two days right?

What if you destroy the room after using it for those two days, and then build a new one? Would that room be under the same constraints, or would being a new room mean the time limit is reset to zero?

That's an interesting question for me. What do you guys think?

edited 16th Jan '16 4:14:06 PM by HandsomeRob

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32827: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:15:59 PM

All we know about Piccolo's post-ROSAT power is that he was weaker than East Supreme Kai who was probably weaker than Dabura and thus Cell.

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#32828: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:16:15 PM

The Room of Spirit and Time isn't actually a room. You can't destroy it. The door on the Lookout is simply a portal to a separate dimension which is what the Room of Spirit and Time actually is. Elder Kaioushin specifically calls it the dimension of time.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32829: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:17:49 PM

Oh right.

What about just using the Vice shout trick that Buu and Gotenks used?

Of course, only a few characters are actually capable of that, so I guess that trick is down.

Well, so much for that.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#32830: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:58:25 PM

Actually, if Piccolo could use the Kaioken, he would probably shoot, very quickly, to the top of the power charts.

In his base state, he's significantly stronger than Base Goku. Remember, base Goku never became stronger than Freeza, while base Nameless Namekian could fight toe to toe with an enemy that made Freeza look positively puny. At that stage, he can probably sustain a fairly large multiplier.

He could have actually done something to at least contribute to the fight against Buu with a Kaioken x100 or something.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32831: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:59:32 PM

[up] He probably could've beaten at least Fat Buu, maybe Pure too, with that multiplier. I find it hard to believe they're 100 times stronger than Imperfect Cell.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#32832: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:05:24 PM

I dunno. We don't have hard numbers or even relative numbers.

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#32833: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:19:23 PM

Base Goku << 100% Freeza

Base Goku << 120,000,000

SS 1 Goku << 6,000,000,000

SS 2 Goku << 12,000,000,000

SS 3 Goku << 48,000,000,000

Buu Saga Piccolo > Android 17

So it depends on: how much stronger than Freeza you think 17 is, and how much stronger than 17 Piccolo is.

Personally, I'd put 17 as about three times as strong as Freeza and Buu Saga Piccolo as about five times stronger than 17 (though some will consider him weaker).

By my estimations Buu Saga Piccolo: ~1,800,000,000 x 20 for the highest Kaio-Ken we've seen would be: 36,000,000,000.

That's WAY more than SS 2 Goku and just under/equal to SS 3 Goku.

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#32834: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:46:50 PM

So in Super this week...they didn't change the ending, but the way they handled it was a little better than the movie. That is, there was actual tension over whether Goku could successfully kill Freeza before he blew up the Earth AGAIN.

Also, Gohan is going to start training with Piccolo.

No, seriously.

Anyway, this week didn't suck, and the new material is starting next week!

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#32835: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:48:30 PM

That is the first optimistic news I've heard about Super in the past three months.

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#32836: Jan 16th 2016 at 5:48:37 PM

Well, I'm glad that the show constantly kicking Gohan in the dick wasn't entirely pointless.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32837: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:16:36 PM

Not only that,but we saw Videl, Pan,Trunks, Goten, etc. Die when Frieza blew up the earth the first time.

It actually makes the scene more effective than just seeing the planet explode.

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#32838: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:21:32 PM

Super Buu's Genocide Attack would've been even more hard-hitting, and a better book-end to the Spirit Bomb, if it had showed characters like Upa, Bora, and Android 8 dying from the beams.

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#32840: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:28:57 PM

Actually, I think that the scene of Buu exterminating the human race was fine as it was. Because it shows the actual gravity of the situation with the sheer ease of Buu wiping out every living being in the planet below the lookout like it was nothing.

Not dwelling on it, in a way, makes it have a much bigger impact. Because, to Buu, it really was no big deal at all.

Also the people who like them might have been pissed that they just got brought back to die just to show off how evil the baddie is.

edited 16th Jan '16 6:29:36 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#32841: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:32:22 PM

But then they'd be brought back again to fuel a super move that atomizes a different version of that same villain!

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#32842: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:36:21 PM

Which the anime already did. Seeing them get killed is unnecessary.

'Sides, Dragon Ball gets called out on its filler and padding enough without adding even more.

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#32843: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:41:45 PM

No, I mean it would've been a good scene overall in the manga. Adds an undertone of the average Joe, as well as every named character in the series, getting revenge on Buu for their own deaths.

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#32844: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:46:33 PM

Overemphasizing how the attack impacts those specific characters we know and care about could easily detract from the intended effect: it's horrific not because Upa died, but because billions of other people died alongside him.

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Cortez from Parts Unknown (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#32845: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:53:51 PM

It does work with Frieza destroying the Earth, mainly because we've seen planets destroyed before, but i don't think we've ever seen inhabitants dying in the blast.

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#32846: Jan 16th 2016 at 6:54:47 PM

Well I'm pretty sure Majin Buu would have survived Freeza's desperation attack anyway. Then he could train for four months and have a confrontation with Golden Freeza.

That needs to be a path in the next licensed fighting game.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32847: Jan 16th 2016 at 7:48:23 PM

Considering Buu's ability to absorb people, he probably wouldn't need to train.

Though he obviously can't play that card due to it killing the person (or changing who he is)

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#32848: Jan 16th 2016 at 7:50:03 PM

Also, Gohan is going to start training with Piccolo.

Doooooooooooodge!

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32849: Jan 16th 2016 at 8:05:40 PM

He's never been very good at that has he?

I mean, it's not even a joke thing. I don't think Gohan dodges very well

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#32850: Jan 16th 2016 at 8:10:43 PM

[up]He really needs to work on it.

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