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Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#32801: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:18:32 PM

They do live in Satan City by Resurrection F. The neighbors fear their Destructo Disc barrages every night.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#32802: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:21:17 PM

Does Android 18 even have any special attacks outside of ki blasts?

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#32803: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:22:29 PM

Unless 'Break Vegeta's arm'/'Break Vegeta's other arm' counts.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#32804: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:22:45 PM

She can do the Kienzan in the games.

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Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
18's Glomp OF DOOM
#32805: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:24:36 PM

She does it against Mighty Mask in the Buu Saga World Tournament.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#32806: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:30:10 PM

[up]True enough.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#32807: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:37:19 PM

Everyone can use the Kienzan or a variation of it by the end of the series, much like with the Taiyoken, because it's that useful of a technique. If you learn how to do the Kienzan easily, you'll never need a knife ever again.

Then again, Gohan can chop wood with his bare hands, so they don't really need edged tools at all, but you get my point.

edited 16th Jan '16 3:37:53 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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Ssj3Gojira Arashi Shigehito from The Event Horizon Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#32808: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:38:30 PM

I still wished someone tried to use it like a hand-held saw blade, like Naruto did with his Rasenshuriken.

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#32809: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:39:06 PM

What if someone tries to do the kaioken but ends up accidentally saying taiyoken? Would they use that instead?

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#32810: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:40:25 PM

You don't need to call the name of the attack. That's just a thing they do because reasons. They'd still do the Kaiouken.

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#32811: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:41:05 PM

They'd probably use the Kaio-Ken while saying Taiyoken.

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#32812: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:42:30 PM

But why do they have to shout it?

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32813: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:42:51 PM

But Kaiouken would add nothing to Taiyouken.

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#32814: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:43:14 PM

They don't. It's pure Rule of Cool.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#32815: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:48:39 PM

It might also help with concentration since that's usually the explanation given for Calling Your Attacks.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32816: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:51:25 PM

Man. I wish Toriyama hadn't just abandoned Kaiouken.

Yeah, I know I keep bringing this up, and I know that Super Saiyan is far more useful, but it just annoys me.

This is why you plan shit out just a little. I mean, I guess he must of thought ahead in some regards, but not as far as he should. It all still worked out, but I feel like the series would be even better if he'd written down a notes on where he wanted to go.

This is Handsome Rob, still beating that dead horse, and signing out.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
The Cat Knows Where It's At
#32817: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:53:41 PM

Just like every other time this was brought up, I'll give the counterargument: After the Namek Saga, all of the Saiyans other than Gohan had access to Super Saiyan which was better in every way and the humans would have been just as useless even if they knew it and could somehow take it up to x50.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#32818: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:55:43 PM

[up]

Yeah I know. But I don't gotta like it.

Then again, like you've said, we've had this argument before. Namek raised the bar way too high Power level wise, and that's just how it is.

Got a new thought (that's not about power levels or any of that other shit that gets brought up), but I need to think on it a bit.

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Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#32819: Jan 16th 2016 at 3:57:06 PM

Just to prove the point, let's say that Krillin at his last known PL was somehow able to sustain a x50 Kaiouken. That would put his PL at 3,750,000 which is just a bit stronger than Goku's Base when he fought Freeza. It'd be absolutely useless against anything that came later.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#32820: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:08:27 PM

So I was thinking about Namekian fusion. It's been brought up that only members of the same clan can fuse together. Kami and Piccolo were an exception, due to being two halves of the same whole.

Considering how broken Namekian fusion is, it got me to thinking of how you could canonically fuse a bunch of Namekians from the same race together and I came up with this.

You know, I think this one would work. It won't ever happen, but I still think it could work.

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#32821: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:09:02 PM

Giving Kaio-Ken to the Humans wouldn't necessarily be to change their standing or make them relevant, rather, the only reason to give them Kaio-Ken is because there's absolutely no reason NOT to give it to them.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#32822: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:09:05 PM

Okay, but what about, say, Piccolo? He seems stronger than the saiyans when they're in base.

BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#32823: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:10:44 PM

He was, until BOG and ROF.

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#32824: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:11:14 PM

Giving Kaio-Ken to Piccolo would allow him to fight at SS 2-SS 3 level (assuming x20+). And that would be awesome.

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#32825: Jan 16th 2016 at 4:13:12 PM

[up] Not necessarily. We don't know any numbers past the Namek Saga so he may have been a match for a SSJ2 Gohan but being able to fight SSJ3 Goku is doubtful and SSJ3 Gotenks is just ludicrous.

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