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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32476: Jan 11th 2016 at 4:56:23 PM

I mean.

I like filler when it's slice of life and actually adds something without necessarily changing something per se.

And I like it when it's new and out there.

Like.

There's a difference for me between the filler where Ginyu comes back and does Ginyu things and the filler where Dabura owns Gohan. If you get what I mean?

When Toei makes new materiel I (usually, not always) like it better than when they change existing scenes.

Which. There's some overlap, and it's not always clear which is which.

And I love the goofy slice of life high-concept stuff like driving cars, or the Great Saiyaman, or Vegeta at an amusement park or Goku with a smart phone.

Hercule punching Goku was great.

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#32477: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:01:30 PM

The reason why Toei's extended filler often sucks is because they're just WRONG about the power levels. Things like the humans beating the Ginyu Force, Goku fighting Kid Buu as an SSJ 2, Gohan fighting Freeza...if they had looked carefully through the manga, they would have realised none of it makes any sense.

Although the humans beating the Ginyu Force made a bit of sense at the time.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#32478: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:05:07 PM

Like, we know the humans and Piccolo went to King Kai's. That's in the manga. It's mentioned. Not shown.

Same with Dabura going to heaven. Another filler thing I adored.

We also know that the humans training with Kami made them stronger than Goku training with Kami. Because they trained together, and that has better results.

And king kai's place has high gravity.

So. If not for the fact that the Ginyus have bodies, that filler could work. Kinda.

EDIT: And, like, I don't even care about the bodies in hell thing in the Pikkon filler stuff just because of how good it is.

I think Toei sorta peaked in the Other World Tournament and Great Saiyaman arcs.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:10:48 PM by unnoun

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#32479: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:24:37 PM

You know...going back to the AF thing, there was a time when the wiki page for it actually had a synopsis for an AF series; long story short the Xicor thing happens, Goku is brought back without the "seven Super Saiyans" thing from Toyotaro, Goku goes Super Saiyan 5 in response to Xicor saying he was a Super Saiyan 5, and Goku basically kills him, but not before Vegeta gets killed by Xicor.

However, after that was some storyline about another Otherworld Tournament that Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, and Pikkon end up attending, the grand prize being a day back on their homeworld to spend with their families. Vegeta turns into a beastal Super Saiyan 5 in his match with Goku, the villain of the "arc", who's also in the tournament, perma-kills Pikkon with a mythical sword, and ends up transforming to be so strong Goku can't do anything against him. The villain goes after Grand Kai, who proceeds to kick ass, before the villain transforms again and beats him; Frieza, Perfect Cell, and for some reason Kid Buu also get involved and face off with Vegeta and Piccolo, where Kid Buu proceeds to absorb Frieza and Cell to fight them. Villain goes to Earth, faces people, kicks ass again when Goku comes, and then they make a wish on the Dragon Balls to make Goku stronger; he gets Super Saiyan 6, curbstomps villain, kills him with Kamehameha, and wins the tournament.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:24:59 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#32481: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:46:58 PM

I think the Otherworld Tournament filler in the anime mentioned that Grand Kai was the strongest fighter in the four quarters of the universe, so that "arc" probably took it to it's logical(?) conclusion.

Also, what I found funny was that during that Super Saiyan 6 portion of the story, the villain screams at Goku about how Super Saiyan 5 is the power of the gods, and that there's nothing stronger than it, potentially in terms of forms; Goku just tells him he must be stronger than a god/God then, before killing him. Flash-forward several years, and we have Super Saiyan God and Super Saiyan God SS.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:47:28 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#32482: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:49:14 PM

I wonder what would happen if Goku reached Super Saiyan 9001

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32483: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:50:30 PM

Grand Kai was pretty clearly weaker than Goku and Pikkon, though; he disqualified them both on a technicality because they'd already surpassed him.

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#32484: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:52:28 PM

I love how you noticed that, and not the part about Kid Buu coming back, even though Majuub exists at this point.

I think the excuse for that was either because Kid Buu was in Hell the entire time, or that the villain just recreated him.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:53:23 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#32485: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:52:30 PM

[up][up][up]You think you're joking. Adorable.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:52:56 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#32486: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:53:12 PM

[up]

WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT?!?

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#32487: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:55:05 PM

Hell. It also (apparently) took 5 and a half hours to draw.

edited 11th Jan '16 5:56:56 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#32488: Jan 11th 2016 at 5:59:11 PM

I remember one AF where Garlic Junior returns to harass adult Gohan and Uub wishes for great power (for unrelated reasons I cannot remember).

I vaguely remember one where Xicor pulls a Heel–Face Turn and there was a villain with a sword that could cut Xicor but every time a piece of Xicor was lost he could reattach it and his power level increased every time he reattached something. Not enough to beat the villain though, Goku still needed to come save his bastard son's life. Then the villain's sword creates wind powerful enough to blow around a super saiyan 5 but Goku eventually manages to resist it and kills him with a times twenty five Kamehameha fired directly at the Earth...you know, I earlier claimed to have recognized AF for what it was but now that I've been seriously thinking back on it for a couple of days, I still didn't grasp just how absurd some of those stories really were.

Like, I realized it was fake but I didn't realize just how hard they were parodying everything.

edited 11th Jan '16 6:01:23 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#32490: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:06:46 PM

Just checked the history of the AF page on the wiki, and laughed at this part of an edit from 2007.

Toriyama has not licensed any company to produce any more Dragon Ball series'. The only new Dragon Ball material that will be released in the future will be re-dubs, remasters, video games, and character cameos. There is also the unlikely possibilty that a live action movie may be produced. Rumors of a live action movie have been circulating since the year 2000.

edited 11th Jan '16 6:08:15 PM by Ssj3Gojira

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#32491: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:15:34 PM

-reads entry for Super Saiyan Infinity-

OH HELL NO, WHO THE HELL WRITES ABOUT 18 CHEATING ON KRILLIN?!?

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#32492: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:18:01 PM

What? I think I heard my favorite couple and "cheating" in the same sentence. That is an impossibility.

I love you, Krillin!! -struggling to breathe- I love you as well, honey..
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#32493: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:18:43 PM

Krillin was apparently the Final Boss of.....[up][up][up][up]whatever that is.

edited 11th Jan '16 6:19:37 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#32494: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:22:13 PM

A Final Super Saiyan's energy can't be detected, ha!

I had no idea there was a wiki for these things.

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#32495: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:23:49 PM

[up][up]

Hold on a sec...KRILLIN?!?

WHY I OUGHTA [the following statement has been removed due to lewd and harsh language unsuited for anyone alive or dead] AND THEN WHEN THEY LOOK AT IT, THEY'LL NEVER KNOW IT WAS HUMAN!

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32496: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:26:40 PM

...18 cheating on Krillin?

...*Pulls big red lever*

ALERT ALERT THIS IS NOT A DRILL!

...Fanon Wikis are the worst.

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#32497: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:29:04 PM

Didn't you read it? When #18 cheated on him with Super Saiyan 100 Goku, Krillin went to Majin Porunga and wished to be Saiyan, then went into the Super Time Chamber (1,000 years in = 1 day out) for 1,000,000 years with the Galactic Destroyers, then came out, killed them, and achieved Super Saiyan ∞.

edited 11th Jan '16 6:29:53 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#32499: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:30:31 PM

She cheated on him with Super Saiyan 100 Goku, lol.

He proceeded to rip off Goku's hair and nose in front of Android 18 while screaming "Now you know how I felt!". This is the second-most powerful Super Saiyan form in the universe ever, the first being Legendary Super Saiyan ∞. Anyone who says otherwise is a liar. Kibito Kai himself said "Krillin is now the beginning and the end. The Alpha and the Omega." This, however, is incorrect, as whom he is speaking of is currently Goku.

Eventually, he is challenged by Goku, who obtains Legendary Super Saiyan ∞. When Krillin loses, his Saiyan power is sapped completely and is returned to normal.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#32500: Jan 11th 2016 at 6:31:09 PM

And sadly, all of those characters will be in DBH before Super Saiyan Pan. sad


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