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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31726: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:33:01 AM

The Kikoho is also a kiai technique.

It is? I could swear it's an energy blast. Anyway, even though this is another attempt to downplay what Tien did, I'm gonna agree that he did no damage to Cell.

Damaging Cell wasn't the point anyway. He knew he couldn't actually hurt him. He was just trying to buy as much time as possible. At that point, keeping Cell from absorbing 18 for a few seconds longer was better than doing nothing. Things got desperate, and he took a desperate action that paid off in the short term at least. In the long run, it ended up being meaningless due to later things.

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Let me just say this again: I get that Yamcha is a Butt-Monkey in the series. He fell into a habit of being the first to go down, and never accomplish anything, and people latched onto it.

THAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM! People latched on to it way too hard, and now you can't even blink without someone pointing out how awful and weak and pointless he is. I'm sick of it. The horse they are beating isn't just dead, it's mulched into paste from the constant attacks. there's nothing but a fine slurry left, but people still keep kicking it into paste.

We all flip out when a character gets over hyped or over wanted and start saying enough already! Sometimes we start hating the dude because he's hyped to much. And yet, people refuse to grow tired of ripping on Yamcha, when the joke is, as far as I'm concerned, well past dead. It's Heaven dead. The body has a halo, and then is killed again. It's total Cessation of Existence as far as I'm concerned.

I would literally do just about fucking anything to kill this joke, even if it made me the biggest asshole on the internet, because I'm that fucking sick of it. I'd rather never talk about him again then have people randomly bringing him up for a cheap fucking joke. That's how far I am with this shit.

I'd rather talk about fucking Power Levels. That's how far I am with this shit.

I'd rather talk about anything. Anything at all.

And on a final note:

I mean, I suppose he's kind of a nice guy when he's not cheating on his girlfriend

Did he ever really cheat? I figured Toriyama said that as a half assed justification for breaking him up with Bulma, and wasn't serious about it.

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Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#31727: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:38:40 AM

That above argument was as bad as Yamcha fighting Android 20. tongue

I love you, Krillin!! -struggling to breathe- I love you as well, honey..
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31728: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:43:30 AM

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So. Any thoughts on what will happen in the series after the Universe 6 / Universe 7 tournament?

I mean, if it's still gonna be going on after that, they have to have an idea of where their going right? Because that's something we haven't discussed yet.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#31729: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:50:29 AM

At least Yamcha's Japanese voice actor respects him.

edited 29th Dec '15 8:52:56 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

Zeromaeus Since: May, 2010
#31730: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:50:39 AM

Revival of F 2: Freezer gets Cooler

Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#31731: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:51:37 AM

Believe me I like Yamcha, but mocking him's as almost as funny as mocking myself. And I love myself.

I love you, Krillin!! -struggling to breathe- I love you as well, honey..
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#31732: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:55:34 AM

Hey. I think some of the jokes are kinda funny too.

It's mainly that people seem to do it as a cheap laugh, and that it happens out of fucking nowhere sometimes.

I really would rather not bring him up anymore. There's nothing to say, either serious or humorous that hasn't been said a million times already.

That ain't gonna happen though, so I'll either deal with it, or become so bitter that I derail every dragon ball thread on every website out of genuine spite, becoming the biggest asshole in existence.

And I'm already an Uchiha so that would be quite an accomplishment.

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Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#31733: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:56:20 AM

Let's mock Krillin then. tongue

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#31734: Dec 29th 2015 at 8:59:16 AM

Krillin's f*ck-ups aren't as funny, though.

Yamcha was once defeated in the Tenkaichi Budokai by God headbutting him in the balls - an apt metaphor for his life, really. It was hilarious and made very little difference to the arc.

Krillin almost got everyone killed by Cell because his boner overrode his common sense.

Yamcha's cock-ups are funny because the only person who's ever died from Yamcha cocking up is Yamcha. When Krillin fumbles the ball, it's usually with the fate of the world on the line.

edited 29th Dec '15 9:02:35 AM by TobiasDrake

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#31735: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:02:30 AM

Aww look guys, you broke Rob again.

To be fair, it's not like Yamcha didn't have high points in his career too. smile

Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#31736: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:04:17 AM

I honestly think that was more Vegeta's fault, as he was the one fighting Cell. Why the hell would Bulma even send someone who was in love with the target??

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#31737: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:05:24 AM

Nobody actually figured that out until after Cell Games.

Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#31738: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:07:34 AM

I believe he told Goku in filler, though.

I'd like to know everyone's reaction to the relationship, though.

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#31739: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:09:04 AM

in filler

Well, there's your problem.

edited 29th Dec '15 9:11:15 AM by TobiasDrake

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#31740: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:09:13 AM

Still, I can't really see Krillin killing anybody in cold blood like that.

VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#31741: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:10:58 AM

The Android Saga goes in the direction it does because of the established characters of the cast. Krillin's established character is a part of that.

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#31742: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:11:26 AM

It's a double-pronged cock-up. Vegeta and Krillin both screwed up. Vegeta screwed up maliciously and Krillin screwed up because his erection bested his judgment in a duel to the death. But in Vegeta's defense, Krillin bears a greater deal of fault because Vegeta is a delaying tactic at best. That Vegeta will make a bad situation worse is an inevitability, especially at this point in time where he only barely qualifies as "not actively the villain".

edited 29th Dec '15 9:12:44 AM by TobiasDrake

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#31743: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:12:24 AM

Why didn't Trunks just choose to fight Cell in the first place?

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#31744: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:13:03 AM

He does. Vegeta stops him.

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#31745: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:14:20 AM

So that means my favorite relationship in the show(Lazullin) was formed by a mistake that indirectly cost the life of Goku. I feel like shit now.

edited 29th Dec '15 9:14:46 AM by Piando

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#31746: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:16:06 AM

Did you all even read the second part?

This may be an Affectionate Parody, as the creator was sent a long letter from a fan saying though Namcha isn't strong physically, he is still a strong character, as he strives to do what's right even though he isn't as powerful as the others. Sorachi's response? "I agree."
Also, Gotenks used Yamucha's wolf wind attack on Aka. So take that as a consolation prize.

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Shlugo_the_great King of Burgers from Far Far Away (On A Trope Odyssey) Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
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#31747: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:16:40 AM

Eh, it's not like Goku was bothered much by being dead. All that changed is that he got a halo and could train all the time without Chichi bothering him.

Piando 18's Glomp OF DOOM Since: Jun, 2015
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#31748: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:17:40 AM

Why doesn't he just divorce Chi-Chi and devote all his time to training?

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#31749: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:20:42 AM

If it helps, there were a lot of mistakes that resulted in Goku both being and remaining dead. Most directly at fault is Gohan for being so overwhelmed by Super Saiyan 2's hyperaggressiveness that he wasted time sadistically torturing Cell instead of just killing him and being done with it.

I wouldn't even say Krillin breaking the remote contributed much to the development of Lazullin. Spending a Shenron wish to remove her self-destruct mechanism out of an ignorant but selfless desire to see her happy with 17 seemed to make a much stronger impact on her, and nothing terrible came of that.

And since we were talking about Yamcha, it should be noted that while the fanbase makes a huge fuss about Bulma leaving him for Vegeta, it's to his credit that Yamcha doesn't make a very big deal of it. By the end of the Cell Saga, he's moved on and has a new girlfriend. In fact, we rarely see him angst over it at all. If anything, he seems perfectly content with whatever life he's living offscreen in the Buu arc. After his relationship with Bulma ends, he's pretty upbeat.

edited 29th Dec '15 9:26:43 AM by TobiasDrake

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#31750: Dec 29th 2015 at 9:27:00 AM

It's for a crossover fanfic, but how would the Dragon Ball characters react to Yandere-Chan?

edited 29th Dec '15 9:27:23 AM by Piando

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