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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#31526: Dec 23rd 2015 at 11:44:14 AM

Anyone find it odd Dimps is putting all this DBO/XV lore in DBH before making DBXV2.

EDIT: GOD AVATAR!

edited 23rd Dec '15 12:38:57 PM by Rinsankajugin

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#31527: Dec 23rd 2015 at 12:51:59 PM

I find it odder these short limited release movies and arcade games are successful but apparently no one wanted to play a Dragon Ball Mass Multiplayer Online game. I'm not the biggest fan of Final Fantasy XII or World Of Warcraft myself but I don't understand what gave those games the longevity Dragon Ball Online didn't have.

Was there some subtlety to grinding rodents in the other two games only true fans of the genre could appreciate. Maybe it was the slow flight or lack of aerial combat? I can see how spending most of a Dragon Ball game on foot would be a let down. Maybe it was the Only Six Faces aspect of customization? I didn't ever see complaints, not in mass anyway. The Japanese player base seemed positive enough. Was it another Asian server that hated it?

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Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#31528: Dec 23rd 2015 at 12:55:25 PM

The MMO was limited to Korea for some reason, IIRC.

That was a stupid decision.

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#31529: Dec 23rd 2015 at 1:02:45 PM

Huh, could have sworn I remember seeing Japanese text. That would explain it though.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#31530: Dec 23rd 2015 at 1:06:18 PM

So, how far do y'all think they'll go with the avatars, considering they're gods now.

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#31531: Dec 23rd 2015 at 1:16:00 PM

Golden Freeza, Beerus\Champa(more entries on the Cat Girl page, yay!), three eyes like Tien, no nose like Krillen, Machine Mutant, Shadow Dragon, Super Saiyan Four, Roshi and Baba.

edited 23rd Dec '15 1:17:02 PM by IndirectActiveTransport

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#31532: Dec 23rd 2015 at 1:16:27 PM

They'd get Blue Hair. Definitely. I never really thought about it, but...yeah, the avatars get all of the canon transformations. Now they're getting the ones in Super.

The *Legendary* Super Saiyan is motivated by a crying infant! He is a literal giant f***ing baby!
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#31533: Dec 23rd 2015 at 1:27:36 PM

That does set a good precedent. Xenoverse the Sequel may give Saiyans the ability to go God. It'd be nice if it made up some bullshit ritual that let everyone else ascend to Godhood too. It can always use Whis as a handwave. After all, he is Whis.

Also getting to make Avatars of the Kai species would be cool. So would cat people. Might be fun seeing Beerus' reactions to having an apprentice of his own species.

(inb4 they add it, but instead of having both be like Beerus, the females of the species are your traditional Cat Girl instead)

edited 23rd Dec '15 1:30:40 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#31535: Dec 23rd 2015 at 2:32:02 PM

The MMO was limited to Korea for some reason, IIRC.

That was a stupid decision.

It was never intended to be limited to Korea.

It was released their first with plans to roll it out to other countries and did come to Taiwan and Hong Kong.

And the type of MMO it is (cash shop funded) is extremely popular in Korea and Hong Kong. If it couldn't succeed there, it was unlikely it would succeed elsewhere. That's why it was shut down.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#31536: Dec 23rd 2015 at 3:13:03 PM

Probably should've just been a suscription based MMO. I mean, if Lineage II managed to live as long as it did...

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#31537: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:17:15 PM

So I asked this in the abridged thread but it's better being asked here: when do you think Goku and Vegeta will become stronger than Beerus and Whis? Do you think it's going to be accompanied by another new transformation?

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#31538: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:27:53 PM

Given the Serial Escalation, yea. I'd kind of prefer if Beerus and Whis actually stay above those two though. Let at least one deity not have their status be made ultimately pointless by how strong the saiyans are.

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#31539: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:34:34 PM

They will be eventually, somehow.

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#31540: Dec 23rd 2015 at 7:37:13 PM

New transformations are almost inevitable, although I don't think they're necessary. I do think Toriyama will probably keep them to one or two transformations at a time, though, like how Super Saiyan God replaced everything else, then Goku went back to Super Saiyan 1, then Super Saiyan Blue.

As for when they should surpass them, I think keeping Beerus and Whis above them forever would just get cramped. I'd like for the progress to be slow though, Goku went form "lost to 70% Beerus" to "could match Beerus alongside Vegeta".

I'd like to go through a period where Goku and Vegeta are equal to Beerus. That could last quite a while.

Then after they surpass him, they don't need to surpass Whis right away. Beerus might also eventually surpass Whis, just to shake up the dynamic a bit. It'd be cool to see Beerus surpass Goku or Vegeta again as well.

Eventually I want to see Whis/Vados surpassed because I don't want them ending up in a Vegetto position where they're treated like the fandom's Chuck Norris and considered impossible to beat.

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#31541: Dec 23rd 2015 at 9:26:44 PM

The existence of Vados already means Whis can lose. In fact, if he does prove to have surpassed her in the last 1000 years, all that will prove is that they are both beatable. Prior to the introduction of Beerus on the other hand, Vegito was pretty much unbeatable.

Given the rules of the setting, beating Vegito was never impossible (Gohan and Super Buu are both stronger than Goku and Vegita, they fuse using the Kaioshin earrings and the result should be powerful enough), but no situation where Vegito could lose had been brought to the audience's attention. Whis/Vados don't have that luxury.

And I don't see what's wrong with leaving Beerus and Whis above Goku and Vegeta. Even though they are stronger, it takes time to get in contact with them, it takes more time for Whis to reach them, Whis needs three minutes to fix any damage done and they're not in any particular rush to join any side of a conflict, so Deus ex Machina is pretty easy to avoid.

I agree it would be more interesting if there were reasons why Goku and Vegeta remained behind Beerus and Whis, if they actually became as strong as the two used to be only to learn that's no longer adequate, but for now I'm fine if red guy becomes Goku's new rival.

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#31542: Dec 23rd 2015 at 11:14:02 PM

Actually, Super Buu and Gohan wouldn't get the rivalry bonus Goku and Vegeta had, so we don't know if a fusion between them would be enough. Particularly considering Super Buu + Gohan + Piccolo + Goten + Trunks wasn't enough to even make Vegetto break a sweat.

If a normal fusion is greater than the sum of its parts, Vegetto took that concept and flew away with it.

edited 23rd Dec '15 11:15:27 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#31543: Dec 23rd 2015 at 11:25:49 PM

Since when is rivalry bonus a thing?

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#31544: Dec 23rd 2015 at 11:28:19 PM

That's just what was said about Potara fusion.

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#31545: Dec 25th 2015 at 12:44:59 AM

So... for maximum power, Buu should absorb Android 18, Cell should then absorb Buu, and then Cell and Gohan should use the potara earings?

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#31546: Dec 25th 2015 at 4:01:06 AM

Think anything will come of Jaco being able to see Freeza and Goku fighting when Krillin and Gohan are unable to?

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#31547: Dec 25th 2015 at 4:26:38 AM

The subs I watched implied Gohan could follow the fight.

Bulma's comment made it sound like Jaco's just meant to have special eyesight, so it's not like the usual "guy who can follow the fight could be stronger than the others" moment.

But it could very well be building up to something for Jaco, especially given that Super made him even less involved in the fighting. Perhaps they want him to surprise the audience when he next fights.

edited 25th Dec '15 4:27:41 AM by Saiga

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#31548: Dec 25th 2015 at 6:19:30 AM

It occurs to me that the androids in their base forms are stronger than the Saiyans in their base forms. And their energy can't be sensed.

So they could still probably kill the Saiyans in their sleep if they felt like it.

Gero made alright warriors but he made amazing assassins.

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#31549: Dec 25th 2015 at 6:22:29 AM

[up][up]Jaco's eyes are yellow and pupal-less so maybe they're compound eyes?

edited 25th Dec '15 6:23:00 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

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#31550: Dec 25th 2015 at 7:32:44 AM

Think anything will come of Jaco being able to see Freeza and Goku fighting when Krillin and Gohan are unable to?

As Saiga already said, Gohan could follow it. As for Jaco, I agree it's less that he can sense their Ki or anything, and most likely more that his eyes are just better than human eyes.

He did seem pretty strong compared to average Frieza mooks in the movie. Wonder why they toned him down in Super?

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