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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#3126: Aug 16th 2013 at 3:59:03 PM

He's a GT villain, you're not.evil grin

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#3127: Aug 16th 2013 at 4:02:49 PM

For what it's worth, they do at least poke fun at his name in-universe. It may have been a dub insert line (In which case it helps prove my point that Funi did a good job tongue), but at one point Goku comments that Baby was sleeping like a baby.

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#3128: Aug 16th 2013 at 9:16:59 PM

Personally, I think it's a little uncalled for to call someone a "weeaboo" just because you point out how the correct pronunciation of a word. <Mildly Insulted>

If it helps, Tien didn't call him a weeaboo for pointing out the correct terminology. He called him a f*cking weeaboo for flipping his shit over it and refusing to teach them anything just because Tien used the wrong name.

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#3129: Aug 16th 2013 at 10:30:55 PM

[up]What did Tien flip-out for?

edited 17th Aug '13 3:04:27 AM by randomness4

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#3130: Aug 17th 2013 at 3:35:00 AM

I like "Saiyan" far, far more than "Saiyajin". One of those names feels distinctly more alien than the other. It's not "saiyajin"

edited 17th Aug '13 3:35:20 AM by cruherrx

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#3131: Aug 17th 2013 at 8:34:18 AM

[up][up] This is the scene in question. It was a gag justifying why Yamcha, Tien, Piccolo, and Chiaotzu learned absolutely nothing from their training with King Kai in the original series; they got a higher power level, which is functionally pointless, and nothing else.

Also, my bad, it was Yamcha that used the wrong name, and Tien didn't swear.

[up] I actually find Saiyajin sounds more alien, personally. That extra syllable helps.

edited 17th Aug '13 8:38:20 AM by TobiasDrake

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#3132: Aug 17th 2013 at 10:36:08 AM

The jin modifier takes away any alien feel by labeling them as people. Though the Saiyan are pretty much a tribe of werewolf monkeys. Wonder how the curse is supposed to spread or if it is just a family thing? The existence of hybrids seems to debunk it being a hereditary curse.

Yeah, I know its just based on one of Sun Wukongs numerous transformation and not much thought probably went into it. Come to think of it, Goku is really behind as far as transformations go. He only has 6 canonically with a highest possible amount of 10 or maybe eleven given what we know. Monkey king would be most displeased, and what happened to the power pole?

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#3133: Aug 17th 2013 at 10:46:52 AM

As far as I know, it's still connecting Korin's and Kami's place. Even though everyone just flies there... Probably why I don't mind when fan stories and comics give it to Pan, it's got nothing better to do.

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#3134: Aug 17th 2013 at 11:41:28 AM

Oh yeah, I remember Tien and Chaozu climbing it. "Wait, can't they fly?"

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#3135: Aug 17th 2013 at 11:43:23 AM

Back then, it was considering cheating if you did it any other way but climbing...

No wait. That's climbing Korin's tower.

....Let's just say their stupid.

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#3136: Aug 17th 2013 at 9:31:33 PM

@Tobias Drake Oh, that scene. I had a feeling it was that scene.

Freakin' Weeaboo

edited 17th Aug '13 9:32:14 PM by Randomness4

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#3137: Aug 17th 2013 at 11:04:24 PM

I would have loved to see the humans bust out the Kaioken to keep relevant. Goku can go Super Saiyan, he's not using it anymore.

But no. Despite spending all that time with King Kai, the humans come away with nothing to show for it. Freaking weeaboo.

edited 17th Aug '13 11:04:32 PM by TobiasDrake

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#3138: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:40:18 AM

Everyone stayed relevant. The only arc that is just about the Saiyans is the Buu arc, and at that point the cast is so diverse it shouldn't even matter.

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#3139: Aug 18th 2013 at 7:28:14 AM

[up]

What do you mean? Sure Tenshihan had his Kikoushou moment agains stage 2 cell, and Krillin married 18, but in terms of an actual fight, they all became pretty useless.

I agree that they should have learned the Kaiouken, though they likely would not be able to use it to the same extent Goku did.

Come to think of it, if they had learned it, how high do you think they would have been able to go?

edited 18th Aug '13 7:28:24 AM by HandsomeRob

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#3140: Aug 18th 2013 at 10:52:28 AM

Tien would probably be able to go as high as Kaioken x3, or so. Maybe 4. He's probably stronger than Goku was during his battle against Vegeta at that point, but he, y'know, isn't Goku.

Yamcha would be able to use Kaioken ÷6.

edited 18th Aug '13 10:53:41 AM by Anomalocaris20

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#3141: Aug 18th 2013 at 11:02:32 AM

Kaioken by 50, you know, if you actually care about alleged power levels and multipliers. Kaiken by 100 before it got too ridiculous to bear with.

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#3142: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:14:25 PM

Yamcha would be able to use Kaioken ÷6.

Wow, a Yamacha joke. Didn't See That Coming.

It's not wrong, but it's still predictable.

Hmm, would the level of Kaiouken they are able to use finally satisfy people who debate who's stronger: Krillin or Tenshihan?

I know that Word of God gives it to Krillin, but I'm pretty sure it's still debated among the fandom isn't it?

edited 18th Aug '13 1:14:39 PM by HandsomeRob

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#3143: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:43:18 PM

I think it is was already touched on here but the reason it is debated is because Tien is still treated seriously, and you know, Maturity Is Serious Business. Krillen is comic relief, thus he must be a joke character as well.

Finally, filler really does not help at all. Tien has the Tribeam cannon, which allows him to accomplish feats his power level would not suggest he could (such as trumping Goku's Kamehameha, nearly killing Nappa or holding back Cell), Krillen has one of those too except filler scenes have made the destructo disk look weak. One of Garlic Junior's mean caught it with his bare hand and it failed to cut through imperfect Cell. In canon, it could only be stopped by telekinetic method In Theory: it was stated to be able to cut through anything. (hence it could almost kill Napa, Vegeta and Freeza).

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#3144: Aug 18th 2013 at 1:46:52 PM

You have to admit, the division sign was kinda clever. I was going to just use a negative number at first.

But then I realized that would increase his power level. Though I suppose so would division.

edited 18th Aug '13 1:49:08 PM by Anomalocaris20

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#3145: Aug 18th 2013 at 2:06:34 PM

If the humans had learned kaio-ken, they'd still be completely useless. Base Vegeta was a god to them in the android arc, this was stated thrice. By going Super Saiyan, his power is multiplied by 50. So learning kaio-ken x20 (the max we've ever seen), and somehow mastering it to the extent that Goku never did (letting them use it all the time without dying or getting exhausted after one punch) would still leave them irrelevant. Look at it like this, using Krillin, the strongest human, as an example:

Android Arc:

Krillin: 1.5

—Kaio-Ken x20- 30

Vegeta: 2

—Super Saiyan- 100

Krillin still has no use against any enemy that is a challenge to Vegeta.

Also, both of those Yamcha comments were rather clever. Nice work.

edited 18th Aug '13 2:10:10 PM by sockpuppet1

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#3146: Aug 18th 2013 at 2:29:30 PM

[up][up][up] All those Tien scenes were filler?

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#3147: Aug 18th 2013 at 2:32:39 PM

Speaking of Yamcha, people should look at this:

It wasn't like the fight was a total Curb-Stomp Battle. In fact, Yamcha could have won if he hadn't gotten cocky and turned his back on the Saibaman. One of the unwritten rules is to never turn your back on an opponent that is not dead or 100% unconscious. By the way, Yamcha could totally beat a Magikarp...as long as it doesn't evolve into Gyarados. Then he would be totally cooked. [lol]

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#3148: Aug 18th 2013 at 2:39:16 PM

Everyone here knows how it went, but everyone here also knows that Yamcha was a total moron for turning his back on the ugly thing.

Thus, they complete the circle of Yamcha mockery once again.

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#3149: Aug 18th 2013 at 3:12:53 PM

Magikarp splashes Yamcha.

It's super effective! Yamcha Fainted.

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#3150: Aug 18th 2013 at 3:22:05 PM

I would've liked to see him actual try to fight all five Saibamen at once like he wanted to, only to get the shit beaten out of him because it's four on one tongue. He also had by far the least impressive performance against the Saibamen; Tien, Krillin, and Piccolo one-shotted their Saibamen. Yamcha didn't. He was also the only fighter who the Saibamen actually managed to touch. His Kamehameha was also completely weaksauce. Weak energy bullet from Krillin > Kamehameha from Yamcha.

I think everyone, not just Yamcha, should get more shit about the Saibaman fight. The plan was to stall for time- yet the Z fighters chose to be stupid and just finish them off immediately. If Krillin hadn't been such a dumbass and instantly finished off all the Saibamen at once, the fight would've dragged out far longer, and Piccolo probably wouldn't have died.


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