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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2951: Jul 15th 2013 at 12:38:17 AM

[up][up] Have you read either of these threads, by any chance? Because it's an in-depth comparison of the dub & sub of the Bardock special, and the first thing I thought of with your post.

TiggersAreGreat Since: Mar, 2011
#2952: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:35:24 AM

[up] As a matter of fact, I have. smile It's a crying shame the guy didn't finish his comparison between the two versions. sad

I bet that would make putting information on characters on TV Tropes difficult. Because then you'd have to point out to the uninitiated that these tropes apply in the original version, but not the dub version.

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Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2953: Jul 15th 2013 at 4:45:06 AM

Yeah, the examples on this wiki are pretty inaccurate due to stuff like that.

NIkkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2954: Jul 17th 2013 at 9:13:07 PM

The best track in all of Kai was the one used for this scene.

That scene is so much more powerful in Kai and it's not even because I hate the "Hope of the Universe" stuff. The music was just really weak in that scene during Z and it also helps that Schemmel has improved infinitely since then.

NIkkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2955: Jul 18th 2013 at 1:46:38 PM

Beary Scary: Will you be watching all of Kai? I did and I really think only the Freeza Saga benefited from redoing things.

Love original Android/Cell Saga so much.

TiggersAreGreat Since: Mar, 2011
#2956: Jul 18th 2013 at 3:04:34 PM

[up][up] That scene could not have been done more perfectly if they had tried! grin[tup][awesome]

Listening to Number 18 in Kai is...strange.

It's just that I've gotten so used to the voice they gave her in the older dubs that I have a hard time imagining a different voice for her. The older dub voice makes her sound like a masculine woman, which she is...sort of. I guess they wanted her to sound like an 18-year-old in Kai, which takes some getting used to.

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NIkkolas from Texas Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#2957: Jul 18th 2013 at 4:18:14 PM

Meredith Mc C Oy's Eighteen in the original Z dub was fantastic. She conveyed how strong 18 WAS. By contrast, Clinkenbard in Kai just sounded...average. Yeah, maybe the voice fits how deceptive Eighteen's appearance is but it's still weak. The most badass female in the series should not sound so plain and unremarkable.

Z Trunks vs. Future 17 and 18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E1cD4q33b0&feature=player_embedded

Compared to Kai Trunks vs. 17 and 18. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZXKNzmdWTA

Z Eighteen sounds so much fiercer and tougher.

We also can't forget her Deadpan Snarker demeanor in Z.

edited 18th Jul '13 4:19:39 PM by NIkkolas

TiggersAreGreat Since: Mar, 2011
#2958: Jul 22nd 2013 at 1:07:03 PM

[up] I guess it just goes to show that sometimes the original dubs get some things right the first time around, and if they get changed, then people will say it sucks.

I don't know about you, but I hope they change the voice actors they gave for the multiple versions of Buu when they do the Buu Saga in Dragon Ball Z Kai. The Ocean dub voice actors (Scott McNeil, Brian Dobson, Ward Perry) did the multiple versions of Buu way more justice than the Funimation dub voice actors did (Josh Martin, Justin Cook). Scott did a great job sounding like an evil version of Elmo (Sesame Street), Brain Dobson sounded like he was really enjoying himself, and Ward Perry sounded like he is out of his mind (which is the idea). In contrast, Josh Martin sounded like an adult trying to be a kid, and you get a voice that sounds like nails across a blackboard, and Justin Cook just sounded...bored and lifeless.

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Kostya (Unlucky Thirteen)
#2959: Jul 22nd 2013 at 1:18:39 PM

@Goku's "I am" speech further up: I also agree that Kai did the scene better. The original is okay but I like Kai more because:

1. I prefer the music. It sounds more heroic.

2. I just can't take the voices seriously in the original version.

3. I think the lines "I'm a proud Saiyan who calls Earth home" and "I am the Super Saiyan, Son Goku!" are much more powerful than the stuff in the original English. The "Hope of the universe" stuff and "Ally to good, nightmare to you!" lines are just more narmy in my opinion.

[up]I disagree with Cook. I like his voice for Buu I just think he needed a bit more practice like the rest of the cast they used for the original.

edited 22nd Jul '13 1:19:53 PM by Kostya

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2960: Jul 22nd 2013 at 2:26:16 PM

Cook was great as Super Buu, I think, personally. I'd like to hear him after improving.

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#2961: Jul 22nd 2013 at 7:35:36 PM

I just learned there's a video game where Krillin and 18 destroy a juiced-up Frieza (he'd gotten stronger than Cell and Cooler, apparently) with The Power of Love. Kewl.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2962: Jul 22nd 2013 at 7:49:43 PM

Sounds like one of SSW2's shitty what ifs.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#2963: Jul 22nd 2013 at 7:51:45 PM

[up] Game's called Shin Budokai: Another Road, apparently.

Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#2964: Jul 22nd 2013 at 8:06:23 PM

Oh, that one. It's just got one what-if, which is the main story. It's fucking awful.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#2965: Jul 22nd 2013 at 8:48:54 PM

I like how that played like the Budokai Tenkaichi games in 2D, it was a really fun game(story mode wasn't as fun though)

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#2966: Jul 26th 2013 at 6:17:53 PM

I've totally tried this!!!

edited 26th Jul '13 10:28:28 PM by MadSkillz

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#2967: Jul 26th 2013 at 8:18:47 PM

Tigger, that video only raises more questions. Like, "What do these people do for money?" and "How did Krillin ever convince 18 to marry him?"

As for the former, I could guess that they're all coasting off of sponsorships, being former world champs and all.

"Try Tien's Kikoho-O's, a part of a Tien-tastic breakfast!"

"Drink Gokuade! It's probably not made from my sweat!"

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2968: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:25:43 PM

Saiyan-brand vegetables, obviously. The radishes taste a little weak, though.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#2969: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:32:48 PM

I once threw a Vegeta at my Frieza.

It didn't do much.

Should've bought the Majin Vegetas.

It's got extra evil.

edited 26th Jul '13 10:34:27 PM by MadSkillz

Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#2970: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:35:07 PM

I stored some Vegetas in my Frieza, but I forgot to change out of my swimming Trunks so I felt a lot Cooler.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#2971: Jul 26th 2013 at 10:38:25 PM

Lucky you.

I got out of the Perfect Cell I call home to go to my cousin's house until I realized that I left my Kakarots there.

Super Buu on my part. I was so hungry, but then my friend got out the Raditzes. They weren't half-bad.

edited 26th Jul '13 10:43:48 PM by MadSkillz

RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#2972: Jul 28th 2013 at 10:11:25 PM

[up]Because they were all-bad!

Because Raditz is weak.

Well I thought it was funny.

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kay4today Princess Ymir's knightess from Austria Since: Jan, 2011
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#2973: Jul 29th 2013 at 1:47:43 PM

I'm not sure whose voice is the most annoying.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#2974: Jul 31st 2013 at 11:43:03 AM

Krillin, most definitely. But even his wasn't so bad.

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#2975: Aug 1st 2013 at 6:56:10 PM

[up][up]4Kids Luffy. Oh, you meant in the video. Well, Goku's always bugged me.

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