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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#28926: Nov 20th 2015 at 8:15:56 PM

I know, that was the purpose of restoring his youth.

I'm just guessing on the reason why the Nameless Namekian went from "Stronger than Freeza" to "roughly a quarter of a saibaman. Maybe even a fifth", and the wish restoring his youth, but not his real power, could be it.

As to why he doesn't react like he isn't back at full strength...

Well, maybe he just doesn't remember how strong he actually was? I mean, I very much doubt that there'd ever been anything that came anywhere near close to providing a decent challenge where he'd have had to push himself...

Either way, it doesn't really matter. We can just run with the separation cutting their power to a small fraction, well below even 0.1%... Ludicrous as it sounds, it's not like I'm not pulling my own theory out of my ass anyway.

himitsu keisatsu seifu chokuzoku kokka hoanbu na no da himitsu keisatsu yami ni magireru supai katsudou torishimari
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#28927: Nov 20th 2015 at 8:18:38 PM

Well a fused Namekian is considerably greater than the sum of their parts, so a split one being the opposite makes sense.

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#28928: Nov 20th 2015 at 8:27:57 PM

He's more than the two of them, essentially.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28929: Nov 20th 2015 at 8:53:13 PM

Well, the Wish restored King Piccolo to his full strength.

The nameless Namekian on the other hand, well, that would come later.

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#28931: Nov 21st 2015 at 6:42:54 AM

Namekian Fusion is pretty damn broken it seems.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#28932: Nov 21st 2015 at 8:12:15 AM

I can't tell you what they're saying, but I can tell you what 16 is thinking.

"I'mma rape ya, bitch."

(PS: What are the chances of someone stumbling upon this, forgetting to read the entire rest of the conversation or even the rest of the post, just assume it's a threat of rape, report it to a mod who will do the same and then ban me?)

edited 21st Nov '15 8:13:28 AM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28933: Nov 21st 2015 at 8:16:15 AM

Probably higher than you might think.

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#28934: Nov 21st 2015 at 10:04:02 AM

And then that scan had to remind me that the Goku who defeated Neko Majin was from time skip, which could mean Neko Majin actually is stronger than Goku at this point in time. Luckily Neko Majin Z being out of continuity means I'm still right, overall...unless some time travel/12 universal shenanigans end up putting it in continuity...

I don't get what the problem with Piccolo and Kami being so much weaker than the nameless Namek is. Piccolo and Nail showed that Namek Fusion works on a multiplier, rather than simple addition. Would it be that strange then that Namek fission works on a divider rather than subtraction? And Dende says Namekjin learned that stuff from the metamorphjin, and we already know how powerful the fusion dance, another Metamorph technique, is.

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#28935: Nov 21st 2015 at 10:17:48 AM

My question would be why was Nameless Namekian so much stronger than all the other ones in the first place.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#28936: Nov 21st 2015 at 10:37:12 AM

I don't think the nameless namekian was that strong before splitting though. Let's say it was nine thousand and then split into two guys both around three hundred. Then the Piccolo half gets to, say, ten million, fuses back and then gets that 300x multiplier, which lets him stand up to imperfect Cell.

IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#28937: Nov 21st 2015 at 10:43:03 AM

Thing is, it was said that the Nameless Namekian would've been able to defeat Freeza, IIRC... Though granted, at that point nobody knew how horrendously strong Freeza truly was, though Guru does seem to be able to be able to sense hidden potential, so maybe he would be able to tell how strong Freeza truly is even when he's transformed...

Whatever. Even if it's just weakest-form Freeza, that's still a powerlevel of 530,000, which means that the Nameless Namekian had a power drop of 529,500~ when he split, at the very least.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#28938: Nov 21st 2015 at 11:01:53 AM

Wasn't the statement by Nail more like "If you're this strong now as a split namekian, then if you were whole you'd be able to crush Frieza"?

Zelenal The Cat Knows Where It's At from Purrgatory Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Maxing my social links
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#28939: Nov 21st 2015 at 11:04:58 AM

More or less. I can quote him directly, if you want.

edited 21st Nov '15 11:23:21 AM by Zelenal

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#28940: Nov 21st 2015 at 11:08:51 AM

So yeah, that says nothing about how strong the nameless namekian was and only what he'd be if he existed again.

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#28941: Nov 21st 2015 at 11:23:49 AM

Okay, so I poked around the manga and the Great Elder explicitly states that the Nameless Namekian's power was split in half. He also says that he might not have died to Nappa if he hadn't split. He makes no mention of the Nameless Namekian being able to defeat Freeza that I can see.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
himitsu keisatsu
#28942: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:40:43 PM

I never did say that Guru said that - I said that Guru might be able to provide an accurate assesment.

Anyway... if it was a statement made more in that vein, yeah, I can totally see it, if it's applying to Piccolo's much superior powerlevel during the Namek Saga.

edited 21st Nov '15 1:41:45 PM by IAmNotCreativeEnough

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#28943: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:44:07 PM

I keep wondering; if there's so much wrong with this series, and there really is, why do we love it so much anyway?

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Guy01 Since: Mar, 2015
#28944: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:44:37 PM

Fight Scenes! [lol]

Ok, who let Light Yagami in here?
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#28946: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:48:46 PM

Only the well animated ones, mostly.

Especially when it's from Toei's better animators, like Natoshi Shiida or Kazuhiro Ota

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28947: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:51:20 PM

I'm a bit confused why people keep asking that question.

You can except something has flaws, even a lot flaws, and still love it. I mean, obviously everyone has their own limit to what they can tolerate, but that's nobody in this thread.

I'm really not sure why that's such a big mystery.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28948: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:51:23 PM

It can also be legitimately funny too.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#28949: Nov 21st 2015 at 1:55:37 PM

Well, the plot doesn't go down in flames like Naruto did with the war arc and the weekly pacing is better than Bleach so it doesn't seem to take forever to get anything done. Other than that it doesn't really stand out much to me.

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