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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#28851: Nov 19th 2015 at 5:39:02 PM

"That's my BULMAAAAAA" with the Vegeta Super Saiyan theme is solid gold.

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IAmNotCreativeEnough himitsu keisatsu from asa kara ban made omae o miru Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#28852: Nov 19th 2015 at 6:23:09 PM

Just because they can't use the exact same techniques the good guys use doesn't mean they can't use techniques like those. Freeza had his own version of the Kienzan.

It's literally too good of an idea to only have been Krillin's.

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#28853: Nov 19th 2015 at 6:34:57 PM

I don't think Buu cells could be integrated into Cell.

A) because he likely doesn't have cells to begin with, and B) because even if he did, they would just engulf the Cell fetus. Dabura's cells would probably result in a much stronger Cell with paralyzing spit, but overall nothing the heroes couldn't handle by that point in the story.

Now, if Beerus and Whis's cells are compatible, that's an issue.

Regarding Krillin "defending" his wife: If the threat was so powerful that 18 couldn't handle it on her own, then yes, Krillin might as well step in; not to protect her, but to be a distraction while she escapes. Like he did with Super Buu, just hopefully more effective.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28854: Nov 19th 2015 at 6:58:37 PM

[up]

Works for me. If the enemy is specifically after her, even if he died in seconds, those few seconds might be enough for her to get out of sight, and since Androids have no Ki, that makes it very easy for her to disappear.

Plus, Namekian Dragonballs son! Krillin has died a million times (well, okay, 3, four if we count Gt) and I have little doubt he'd die a million more if it lent a tiny bit of help to his wife.

I mean, yeah, she's stronger than him, and I get that a lot of people don't like the idea that she needs to be saved by him ever, but I hate the idea of him becoming a Distressed Dude even more.

I think I hate the Damsel Trope itself, cause it's caused a lot of trouble to be honest, especially when it happens to someone who shouldn't need to be saved, which tends to be a female character.

edited 19th Nov '15 6:58:52 PM by HandsomeRob

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#28855: Nov 19th 2015 at 8:18:56 PM

Hm, so according to the spoilers: Saiyans exist in Universe 6 as well, since Champa wants some on his team since Goku and Vegeta are on Beerus's.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28856: Nov 19th 2015 at 8:23:13 PM

So does that mean they never ran into Frieza, or maybe even managed to defeat him?

wild mass guessGine will be one of the fighterswild mass guess

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#28857: Nov 19th 2015 at 11:00:01 PM

Well, it begs the question as to whether there's a Freeza in Universe 6 in the first place.

Gine wouldn't be a fighter, because she isn't a fighter. Unless we are doing the 'Universe 6 is Opposite World' thing. Is there a trope for that? I'm sure there's a trope for that, I just can't remember its name.

The good news is we can get things like, say, female Saiyans. And maybe they can give a reason as to why Saiyans seem to have a neverending supply of transformations. The bad news is we could get Alternate!Goku and Vegeta. And...god, that sounds like bad fanfiction.

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ComicX6 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#28858: Nov 19th 2015 at 11:04:32 PM

It's been a long day at Bird Studios, and Toriyama is busy going through old design and story documents seeking inspiration. Then one catches his eye: "Hm," he says, "this 'Broly' character looks strong..."

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#28859: Nov 19th 2015 at 11:11:07 PM

NNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

edited 19th Nov '15 11:11:45 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

LOLypop1224 ...what am I even DOING here? Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#28860: Nov 19th 2015 at 11:15:50 PM

[up] That was my first reaction, as well. I've calmed down a bit since then.

...I think.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
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#28861: Nov 19th 2015 at 11:24:07 PM

But Cooler is cooler.

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#28863: Nov 20th 2015 at 1:04:15 AM

I love that Super Pikkon is just Pikkon in different clothes.

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Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#28864: Nov 20th 2015 at 1:09:47 AM

Ya know, considering Pikkon in his base form was able to take hits from Buu Saga Goku in his base form and his Super form is able to take hits from LSSJ4 Broly, you gotta wonder...

How fucking powerful is this guy!?

Soble Since: Dec, 2013
#28865: Nov 20th 2015 at 5:34:46 AM

Gine wouldn't be a fighter, because she isn't a fighter. Unless we are doing the 'Universe 6 is Opposite World' thing. Is there a trope for that? I'm sure there's a trope for that, I just can't remember its name.

Does Gine exist in the Super timeline? Dragonball Minus is relevant here?

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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#28866: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:02:30 AM

I'd wager that Gine was probably decently strong. She wasn't reassigned to food duty because she was weak, but because she was too nice.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28867: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:08:15 AM

Exactly.

She was a member of Bardock's squad for at least one mission.

And, I mean. She fought.

The exact words were "she fought on a four-person team together with Bardock."

I'm pretty sure "she fought" is part of that sentence.

To me that indicates she's punched at least one person.

Or tried to.

To me it's worth noting that nothing is said anywhere about her actual battle power.

edited 20th Nov '15 6:14:49 AM by unnoun

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#28868: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:18:45 AM

I would imagine that Gine would be pretty strong, I couldn't see a Saiyan fighter not having at least Raditz strength.

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unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28869: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:25:30 AM

I wonder whether the Saiyans were trained at all.

Like, from what I can tell they were assigned based on scouter readings and not much else.

No psych evals or anything.

They probably read her power level and shoved her in a pod.

...And, frankly, odds are she probably got a few zenkais out of it. So. There's that.

Pocky.

What if Vegeta's dad was a hippy.

...Dragon Ball Super keeps going from the worst show to the best show.

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#28870: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:28:43 AM

[up][up][up]Well, that makes me feel a bit better about her as a character thinking like that. (Though DBM as a whole is still groanworthy.)

That same interview did say she was repeatedly saved by Bardock, but on the other hand, we don't know the circumstances behind that. Toriyama probably intended it in a "damsel" way, but I'm willing to give her the benefit of the doubt. Maybe she was just less accepting about attacking innocents than the others, but the society the others were attacking didn't know or care about that, and the locals kept going after her in preemptive self-defense just like they undoubtedly fought back against the other Saiyans.

edited 20th Nov '15 6:30:09 AM by BaffleBlend

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28871: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:29:28 AM

[up][up][up]Why not?

edited 20th Nov '15 6:29:57 AM by LSBK

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#28872: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:30:56 AM

[up]He was so weak, they could literally grow Raditzes.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28873: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:32:36 AM

The thing about that is I don't think we were given any indication that Raditz was weak by saiyans standards. Nappa and Vegeta were just exceptional.

unnoun Since: Jan, 2012
#28874: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:35:17 AM

...To me the fact that Nappa was that is a little weird.

Like. 4000 is. It seems a little low.

edited 20th Nov '15 6:38:03 AM by unnoun

BaffleBlend Hey there! Having fun? from Somewhere Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: LET'S HAVE A ZILLION BABIES
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#28875: Nov 20th 2015 at 6:49:25 AM

I think I read somewhere that the average Saiyan citizen is in the 600-800 range.

Keep in mind that even 200 is more than enough to raze a small country to the ground without breaking a sweat.

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